Now I am convinced. With sanctions like these Russia doesn't stand a chance!
Russian Cats Slapped With Sanctions - GreatGameIndia
Now I am convinced. With sanctions like these Russia doesn't stand a chance!
Russian Cats Slapped With Sanctions - GreatGameIndia
How many civilians has the US government killed? An answer rounded to the nearest million is acceptable.
It's like you guys are reading a script. My own fucking government came within inches of wanting to murder me in its vaccinate-everyone-alive path. They clearly wanted me out of a job and destitute for not submitting to their medical tyranny. There is only one more step from there to genocide.
Look at what they've done to the January 6th prisoners. Solid middle class people thrown in a dungeon for walking through a door and taking a tour of a building they should have been allowed to enter at any time. Some of them already driven to suicide. Did Putin do that, too? And there is barely a peep about it from Republican politicians because they don't give a flying fuck about your death or imprisonment, as long as they believe defending you might threaten their power.
Why should I care about Putin's dead political enemies? They decided to play the game, they lost, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if a good chunk of them are better off dead. That is how the game is played everywhere, but you're only allowed to say it about certain players. When it's Western politicians obviously doing it, it's "conspiracy theory". The naivety from you guys is astounding. You really think history stopped in the country you were born in, and everyone with power over you is a really nice guy who willingly plays with kiddie gloves. The only reason you can see Putin is a shark is because you're allowed to. Grow the fuck up. They're all sharks at best, and psychopathic demons at worse.
If you think what our corrupt governments have done for the past two years is not equal to killing people, you live in a fantasy.
Again, people make the mistake of making a distinction between evil and lesser evil, as if that was useful in any way.
It goes like this:"My government is corrupt, but at least it's not killing us, or other people, in plain daylight. All we need is to fix the corruption, but that other government is just plain crazy."
Except, your government is and has been killing people for decades, all over the world.
There is NO difference. The State is the issue. The banking and financial system we live in is the issue. Everything else is pretty much equal to gossip. People talking about "Russia", or any other country, as if it was an actual thing that exists. This huge piece of land with millions of individuals in it, is supposed to be this entity that has a personality?
There are rulers and ruled. That is it. They both exist only because of mass delusion, hypnosis and violence.
So I really cannot understand all the geopolitical language like "Russia did this, Ukraine wants that". It makes it confusing.
The fact that in the western world you see so many memes about the war, is terryfing to me. Young people on social media, and real life, are not taking seriously the prospect of a World War. Has this happened in the past in some other form? I am pretty sure at this point that memes are also a manipulation of public opinion and impression. Someone is making these up so people are distracted laughing at memes to not face the raw reality of the situation.
100%.
There have been several excellent posts recently. This is one of them, as well as anti and Rip's, and of course IPB; thank you for sharing.
It seems to me the time for asking questions and maintaining open dialogue is stronger now than ever, maybe even in the history of the world.
The government and state media have proven they will do or say anything to advance and protect their narrative. I don't believe anything they say, and haven't for many years, but it's clearly completely out of control now, and We The People are the target.
Asking questions is the backbone of the Scientific Method, and dialogue is how we humans communicate and sort things out as best we can.
Keep asking questions. When the questions aren't allowed, you have found the enemy.
These fucking twits didn't give a solitary shit about Ukraine at Christmas time, let alone since 2014. In the West, we shouldn't be worried about a Russia problem for now, but we should definitely be worried about a corporate media problem and a mental health problem.
IPB, that was great, man.
It reads like you have me confused with the person that posted the original question. I was just following up to see if you would actually substantiate your assertions, or at least explain your viewpoint. I'm genuinely curious and open to hearing good reasoning.
I don't know that anyone wrote that they "support Putin"; at best I saw people state that they can understand his reasoning for his actions (this of course contrary to what Western media has been feeding it's citizens). Not calling Putin a "tyrant" does not imply one supports him.
Is this a real threat, and if so, how do you know that? Saying that some other "fella" did the same and "look what happened" is not enough to make decisions off of. Putin's motivations may be much different than the other "fella".
What about those people that wanted to tear down statues in the US back in 2020? That's what the Marxists did before they tried taking over the world, committing genocide, etc. Were you belligerent enough to get after those people too?
Perhaps this "madman" is just playing a game of poker, common in negotiations? If his enemies see him as a madman (and in reality he's just putting on an act), wouldn't that give him some leverage? It's clearly worked on you.
I suspect you don't care to "convince" because you can't really make solid arguments.
Like you did to people here when you posted on this thread? :-)
You didn't have the guts to stand up for the freedom of your own children, yet you are going to cry for the children of Ukraine.... that are thousands of miles away in another country where you bear no risk to stand up for? Hmmm.....think about this.
We better get after North Korea then, too. Also, China. Damn, there's also Iran. Do we really trust Israel? Those Indians don't seem very loyal. We better go after all of the threats, right? Wait..... isn't this what Putin is doing??
I never stated that I support Putin, and I'm not sure anyone else here who is questioning this Ukraine narrative has either. You're pretty good at making loaded questions, but that's about it.
After reading the initial post I am going to say my perspective has changed a bit and I have been arguing from some part of naivety. However, I am going to need some clarification here. You appear to be arguing for ethnic cleansing as a justification of Putin’s war. You literally stated that Russian minorities must fight to preserve themselves from outsiders. This is the same justification that Hitler used to invade other countries. You may recognize him as “the other fella in Europe” who was mentioned in my previous post. I thought this was something that was mutually agreed upon as a terrible blight in human history, but here we are. I guess you can order that free T-shirt in the size of white nationalist.
Also, yes, around Christmas I was not thinking of Ukraine as they were going about their boring, normal everyday lives which I’m sure they would prefer to get back to doing. I will also admit that I was not thinking about the Twin Towers and not knowing who Osama Bin Laden was on 9/11/2001. In fact, previously that was just another random date in September to me with no significance whatsoever.
That's right Satch, and thank you IPB for the insightful piece. Now apply this thinking not just to muh Russia, but to the myriad social defects in our culture, and you'll find that stereotyping and name-calling are the ONLY way these issues become features of our society. Since when, and why, did we become so afraid of being labeled BAD? Guess we really are herd creatures dressed up with larger craniums to make it seem we're capable of analytical, future-oriented thinking.