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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Charles View Post
    Everything you’ve said is fair and should be contemplated daily. However, the US Constitution, winning two world world wars and the Cold War, basic science and engineering, to include the world largest share of Nobel prizes (mostly in physics), should also be contemplated. But yes, at least in my opinion, these factors that make the US exceptional, also make it deeply vulnerable to our own blind confidence and overwhelming ignorance.
    There's a deep problem with American history in that Americans really don't have a good sense of themselves, which is a very tragic and evil thing to do a people on purpose. If you boil down the American identity, it's the Aryan Barbarian, but people have been convinced otherwise. It's not for nothing that Alex Jones, for example, is extremely popular on the right, despite having so many fans who also know all the problems with him - but they still like him. I still like him. He is the quintessential American nationalist in a way. He's hot-blooded, conspiratorial, has a touch of religious madness to him, ready to throw down and do violence at a moment's notice. The American is the Aryan Barbarian and if there's going to be an American nationalism, there needs to be a lot of self re-discovery and an effort made to unapologetically tap into this spirit. This is also the reason Trump, despite not doing anything Big N Nationalistic of note, was so popular going into this crisis period.

    Americans have many great (yet complicated) historical figures to draw from. Just dive into their history, but realise the official "Great Figures" of American history, which are given to Americans, were the elites - and as such, they were self-serving. You can go and point out the Free Masonic aspects of these elites, etc. The important thing to notice is the average American is taught that these elites were just like them and they should identify with them and their ideas, but that is not their rich history or their rich heritage at all. American history and heritage is the common folk. The pioneer people who were fighting Indians and pushing frontiers. People who sang folk songs. People who rebelled constantly and fought to the death against what the elites imposed upon them. Fighting against oppression, and even desgregregation and busing. It is the history of a people who rebelled against the patriotic Founding Fathers, even!

    Shay's Rebellion is a historical footnote, but if you want American nationalism, to me, Shay's Rebellion is the starting point for American nationalism. "Listen, we fought for you - now we want what's due to us. Die.". Thomas Jefferson, despite his own problems, was the only one who was on their side. This is the problem with talking about America, and with American history - heritage Americans are given a history which doesn't resonate with them as a people. If they have to destroy these elite and oligarchical historical idols, they will need new Great Man figures to draw inspiration from and it will have to come from within themselves.

    A half-baked analogy for America's rise and fall would be Conor McGregor. The UFC has the bad repuation of putting the roster through the meat-grinder and shortening their athletes' careers by terrible matchmaking. America is Conor McGregor. Climbed the mountain. Oversaw this vast empire - then lost it. There wasn't a single, decisive moment where people said "Okay, this is not the same thing it used to be" but fast foward many years, and everyone can clearly see the decline. People hypothesize about where the critical turning-point moment was, where everything changed suddenly. It's obvious and palpable. Americans are history-less, and identity-less. America now needs to figure out where its real sphere of influence lies. So, when people (the media, politicians, academia..) talk about "American" interests in Taiwan, or the Middle East, or Ukraine, or wherever... there needs to be a headscratching moment and people need to ask "Which "America"? Which interests?". We're not talking about the opiod addiction-addled Appalachian, or the down-on-his-luck middle class N.E ethnic Catholic. We're talking about Big money interests, and military interests.

    Quote Originally Posted by francesco.decaro View Post
    Was it EVER true? Wasn't that written by slave owners?
    My take is that the delusional veil that Americans have seen themselves through for so long is now being lifted.
    People are subconsciously waking up to the realisation of the limits of what liberalism claims to offer. When they can no longer fudge the numbers and the markets do finally melt, and it all comes tumbling down, what will be left for people? All this trans stuff, for example, is actually is consistent with the founding liberal principles of the modern West. Since conservatives accept individual rights, they have no principles to oppose it. People are realising there's no future in being rootless wanderers without an ancestral homeland. Every prominent moderate or centrist you can think of, the kind that “just hates those gosh-darn Wokes dontchaknow” ultimately has no problem at all with homophilia, miscegenation, or societally suicidal decadence in any way/shape. You don't have to agree with my principles to accept that. Literally, all that liberalism has to offer, long term, is economics. When you push a liberal fanatic to the point of argument, all they can appeal to is economics - and when they no longer have that, something else has to take its place. There's nothing else waiting in the wings, and that's optimistic for me. Nationalism can give these people a path forward.

    Now that peoples' standards of living are starting to take a hit, I think we're going to hear more people people ask these questions out loud. It's not just the economic side causing people to question the direction of things, but it's all sorts of experiences - the political rot, the pandemic, the race riots of the last few years, the hollow social media experience and a general dissatisfaction with life. Heritage Americans are waking up to the idea that they're under the spell of another influence, and this ain't your empire. These ain't your interests. You're birthed from the most enterprising peoples the White race ever produced, and you thought you could rule the world with this Atlanticist empire. Similar to McGregor, well, then the fight with Dustin Poirier happens and you break your leg - you're suddenly forced to experience this harsh confrontation with reality. This wasn't in your best interests. You weren't ready for this. Your soaring success is partly to blame, as were deleterious and subversive factors which eroded the will and weakened Americans' ability to be a single people.

    For Americans to live, this America really has to die. By that, I mean this symbolic order, other "America" which is out there imposing itself on us all.

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    Latest from Karl Denninger;
    Ukraine Has LOST, And So Have We in [Market-Ticker-Nad]

    First I've heard of Ukraine drafting Women as well as the actual tactics Russia is using; creeping artillery bombardment.
    If that's true then I think it's safe to say that the Ukraine War was one of the greatest military defeats amongst the western world in a long long time. It's not just 1 country, it's the entirety of Europe and the US lost 10's of billions in a few months, as well as drastic strategic economic consequences of the type that doesn't normally happen outside of world wars or invasions and occupations of your homeland.

    On the upside, hopefully reality will finally trump ideology, and funding for all this marxist nonsense will dry up overnight as governments will stop funding it out of necessity, people wont have the money or be too tired to care, and only billionaires like Soros and Gates will be able to afford it, but no-one will care about the new rainbow flag because they could only afford half a loaf of bread.

    Now I have to go out and buy a large sack of rice and some more canned food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Charles View Post
    winning two world world wars
    And on your own to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilead View Post
    I was thinking the same thing.
    Not related to covid, etc, but about 4ish years ago, there was a funeral for a 2yo who passed aways via SIDS at our church. It was one of the most gut wrenching, horrible experiences I have been a part of. Unbelievably sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Charles View Post
    Everything you’ve said is fair and should be contemplated daily. However, the US Constitution, winning two world world wars and the Cold War, basic science and engineering, to include the world largest share of Nobel prizes (mostly in physics), should also be contemplated. But yes, at least in my opinion, these factors that make the US exceptional, also make it deeply vulnerable to our own blind confidence and overwhelming ignorance.
    Slight tangent: when I was a teenager, I took the liberty/meritocracy route instead of Marxist leaning ideologies. It wasn't until recent years that I realized free market economies are essentially as close to meritocracy as human nature will allow (and can afford).

    Nothing will ever be perfect, but being free enough to fail or choose wrongly is the same freedom required to succeed. America was that, it has mostly lost it, and it can be that again. Now is the best time to raise children and to seek success. Adversity increases selective pressure.

    Grow strong, and stay humble. Raise your children to be warriors and scholars. Be thankful that you live in such times as these, because they will require more of you than you may have right now.

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    How it started: "The Ruble has been reduced to rubble!" - Joe Biden in March.
    How it's going: The Ruble trades at 7 year highs in June.

    I'm just wondering, for those who thought early on "Those guys countering the narrative are pro Russian shills!" or "The media sucks, but I think they are telling the truth this time", or you bought the neocon bullshit from subversive "conservatives" like Dan Crenshaw, are you going to keep making this same mistake? Or are you finally going to realize that Clown World reigns in the West and most of the 20th century American competence you built your trust in has been destroyed?

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    Even the MSM is finally coming to terms with reality:

    Cases of desertion are growing among Ukrainian forces suffering significant losses in Russia's artillery onslaught, report says - Business Insider

    *Ukraine is now facing "massive losses" with Russia overpowering Ukraine's ammunition and artillery store.

    *There has been a rise in desertion as morale declines, says an intelligence report seen by The Independent.

    *Ukraine is now dependent on Western donations of supplies, Ukrainian officials say.
    There was never a chance in hell that the Ukrainian regime was going to defeat Russia, regardless of all the toys, deluded amateur mercenaries, and "intel" we send them. It was always Zelensky sending Ukrainian men he doesn't give a shit about into a meat grinder. Putin has been restrained, especially early on (idiots pretended this was weakness), and always stayed open to negotiating a peace, but Clown World consistently refused.

    All those young Ukrainian men have been, and continue to be, slaughtered on the altar of Clown World for no good reason, and now there are reports Zelensky is going to draft women. Their blood is on the hands of everyone who blindly cheered this shit on.

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    Denninger: Ukraine Has LOST, And So Have We

    If you're flying a Ukraine flag, assholes, you are the identified enemy right here at home, thank you very much for wearing an enemy uniform openly in public and you deserve to be forced to pay every damned dime of the economic cost to this nation for that act of STUPIDITY. You ALL deserve the worst of what is to come AND IT IS COMING, like it or not. I and many others will do our level best to make sure YOU and your entire family eat that cost -- every damn cent of it. You are the most-stupid follower of the "next shiny object" and frankly, you are too fucking stupid to consume oxygen that could and should instead be used by something like a hog that actually produces a useful end product -- tasty bacon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anticausal View Post
    Cops should have a uniform and carry what they need on their belt only. Radio on the chest is okay, of course. Body armor should always be under clothing, and they should look like they are wearing a plain button up shirt. Cops should not be allowed to look like they are dressing for a military operation because it makes them feel safer. If they are that concerned with their personal safety, they should find another job.

    Like I said, this isn't what truly makes a police force militarized, but it's probably a good indicator. It's obnoxious behavior that distorts the public perception of police and dramatically increases the "otherness" of law enforcement. Whenever I see a tacti-cool cop, my instinct is to stay the fuck away and hope I don't get the guy's attention.

    Although definitely not the most aggressive getup I've ever seen, let's look at Daniel Shaver's murderer:

    Attachment 8071

    It's like porn. You know it when you see it, and I see an asshole.
    Sorry, I have been busy and somehow missed this reply.

    I have worn body armor for a very long time. Flak vests with load bearing vests, interceptors, CIRAS, FSBE, plate carrier with a chest rig and various newer plate carriers. We were issued soft armor "second chance" vests while I was in, and I have worn an inner carrier for soft armor with level four plates in a carrier for duty.

    It has been my experience that lightweight outer carriers are objectively superior. You can distribute the load of your equipment which makes you more agile than hanging everything off your hips, and it sheds heat much, much better. Whether inner or outer, the vast majority of soft armor protection now issued is level 3 or 3A, and recently companies have developed very lightweight plate and trauma pad inserts for soft armor that raise it up to level 3+.

    Furthermore, my background has given me the mindset of:

    1) I don't give a damn what it looks like... it could look like a cape made out of dicks. If it's objectively better for my mission profile/patrol operations then I want at least two of it.

    2) Uniforms are great and all, but it's a tactical job. Not just shooting, but working wrecks, providing first aid/CPR, clearing roadways of debris, search and rescue, changing tires for single mothers, etc. Regardless of the weather. Wearing something because it's bright and shiny because it "gets you more respect" is horseshit. What you're wearing should be professional and clean, but it's more important that you do good while wearing it. It doesn't matter what you wear - people will associate the history with the look.


    As for thing about being concerned for my safety, well... there's no arguing with a shitty opinion.

    Body Armor: Protecting Our Nation’s Officers From Ballistic Threats | National Institute of Justice

    TL;DR: 92% of felonious killings of officers come from firearms, and that in a time with widely available body armor.

    If you're confident in your interwebs braggadocio, then go tell these guys they're pussies.

    How Often Did You Get Shot in the Helmet or Body Armor? - Jocko Willink & Leif Babin - YouTube


    End of the day, my top priority is making it home to my family. That doesn't mean it's my only priority or that I won't take risks, but I will constantly make choices and put in the work to mitigate those risks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Jackson View Post
    There's a deep problem with American history in that Americans really don't have a good sense of themselves, which is a very tragic and evil thing to do a people on purpose. If you boil down the American identity, it's the Aryan Barbarian, but people have been convinced otherwise. It's not for nothing that Alex Jones, for example, is extremely popular on the right, despite having so many fans who also know all the problems with him - but they still like him. I still like him. He is the quintessential American nationalist in a way. He's hot-blooded, conspiratorial, has a touch of religious madness to him, ready to throw down and do violence at a moment's notice. The American is the Aryan Barbarian and if there's going to be an American nationalism, there needs to be a lot of self re-discovery and an effort made to unapologetically tap into this spirit. This is also the reason Trump, despite not doing anything Big N Nationalistic of note, was so popular going into this crisis period.

    Americans have many great (yet complicated) historical figures to draw from. Just dive into their history, but realise the official "Great Figures" of American history, which are given to Americans, were the elites - and as such, they were self-serving. You can go and point out the Free Masonic aspects of these elites, etc. The important thing to notice is the average American is taught that these elites were just like them and they should identify with them and their ideas, but that is not their rich history or their rich heritage at all. American history and heritage is the common folk. The pioneer people who were fighting Indians and pushing frontiers. People who sang folk songs. People who rebelled constantly and fought to the death against what the elites imposed upon them. Fighting against oppression, and even desgregregation and busing. It is the history of a people who rebelled against the patriotic Founding Fathers, even!

    Shay's Rebellion is a historical footnote, but if you want American nationalism, to me, Shay's Rebellion is the starting point for American nationalism. "Listen, we fought for you - now we want what's due to us. Die.". Thomas Jefferson, despite his own problems, was the only one who was on their side. This is the problem with talking about America, and with American history - heritage Americans are given a history which doesn't resonate with them as a people. If they have to destroy these elite and oligarchical historical idols, they will need new Great Man figures to draw inspiration from and it will have to come from within themselves.

    A half-baked analogy for America's rise and fall would be Conor McGregor. The UFC has the bad repuation of putting the roster through the meat-grinder and shortening their athletes' careers by terrible matchmaking. America is Conor McGregor. Climbed the mountain. Oversaw this vast empire - then lost it. There wasn't a single, decisive moment where people said "Okay, this is not the same thing it used to be" but fast foward many years, and everyone can clearly see the decline. People hypothesize about where the critical turning-point moment was, where everything changed suddenly. It's obvious and palpable. Americans are history-less, and identity-less. America now needs to figure out where its real sphere of influence lies. So, when people (the media, politicians, academia..) talk about "American" interests in Taiwan, or the Middle East, or Ukraine, or wherever... there needs to be a headscratching moment and people need to ask "Which "America"? Which interests?". We're not talking about the opiod addiction-addled Appalachian, or the down-on-his-luck middle class N.E ethnic Catholic. We're talking about Big money interests, and military interests.



    People are subconsciously waking up to the realisation of the limits of what liberalism claims to offer. When they can no longer fudge the numbers and the markets do finally melt, and it all comes tumbling down, what will be left for people? All this trans stuff, for example, is actually is consistent with the founding liberal principles of the modern West. Since conservatives accept individual rights, they have no principles to oppose it. People are realising there's no future in being rootless wanderers without an ancestral homeland. Every prominent moderate or centrist you can think of, the kind that “just hates those gosh-darn Wokes dontchaknow” ultimately has no problem at all with homophilia, miscegenation, or societally suicidal decadence in any way/shape. You don't have to agree with my principles to accept that. Literally, all that liberalism has to offer, long term, is economics. When you push a liberal fanatic to the point of argument, all they can appeal to is economics - and when they no longer have that, something else has to take its place. There's nothing else waiting in the wings, and that's optimistic for me. Nationalism can give these people a path forward.

    Now that peoples' standards of living are starting to take a hit, I think we're going to hear more people people ask these questions out loud. It's not just the economic side causing people to question the direction of things, but it's all sorts of experiences - the political rot, the pandemic, the race riots of the last few years, the hollow social media experience and a general dissatisfaction with life. Heritage Americans are waking up to the idea that they're under the spell of another influence, and this ain't your empire. These ain't your interests. You're birthed from the most enterprising peoples the White race ever produced, and you thought you could rule the world with this Atlanticist empire. Similar to McGregor, well, then the fight with Dustin Poirier happens and you break your leg - you're suddenly forced to experience this harsh confrontation with reality. This wasn't in your best interests. You weren't ready for this. Your soaring success is partly to blame, as were deleterious and subversive factors which eroded the will and weakened Americans' ability to be a single people.

    For Americans to live, this America really has to die. By that, I mean this symbolic order, other "America" which is out there imposing itself on us all.
    Excellent post, Matt. Are you sure you're a Brit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Rowe View Post
    Furthermore, my background has given me the mindset of:

    1) I don't give a damn what it looks like... it could look like a cape made out of dicks. If it's objectively better for my mission profile/patrol operations then I want at least two of it.

    2) Uniforms are great and all, but it's a tactical job. Not just shooting, but working wrecks, providing first aid/CPR, clearing roadways of debris, search and rescue, changing tires for single mothers, etc. Regardless of the weather. Wearing something because it's bright and shiny because it "gets you more respect" is horseshit. What you're wearing should be professional and clean, but it's more important that you do good while wearing it. It doesn't matter what you wear - people will associate the history with the look.
    David, I don't think you understand that since the War On Drugs was started under the Reagan Administration in an effort to keep people from getting high, the militarization of the police has made a very bad impression on the taxpayers that are paying attention. The idiots here in Wichita County have an armored assault vehicle, that they have never and cannot ever legitimately use for "law enforcement" purposes. These are the same idiots that pulled up behind Stef at 2am as she was unlocking the gate out in the county in the pitch dark without their red-and-blue lights on. You may not give a damn what it looks like, but we do, and you should try to wrap your head around why bloused black fatigues and proudly-displayed body armor are not appropriate for civilian law enforcement.

    So, what is your mission -- in the larger sense? You'll have noticed that the recently appointed Governor of New York has signed a bill that makes it illegal for civilians to own body armor. Us vs. Them, codified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Rowe View Post
    Sorry, I have been busy and somehow missed this reply.
    A good deal of the willies expressed over the "militarization" and scary look of some police officers remind me of the gun averse to the way "assault weapons" look. Good thing no bayonet lugs seem to be in place or visible on this much despised gear.

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