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    Quote Originally Posted by johnst_nhb View Post
    I know “murderous ways” is hyperbole , but this is exactly how we’ll have this again:

    If we don’t call them morons and we just “give them another chance” then they’ll do it again with impunity. They know this.

    Real science will likely never recover from this shit show.

    However, the silver lining of all this is that quite a lot of people have realized their GP/family doctor actually knows very little and is just a specialist referral machine for insurance companies. And of course, a shill for big Pharm (of which I am still a big fan of the actual good parts).
    My general line on this is if I’m not bleeding, nothing is broken and nothing is growing inside me, I will stay away from the medical system. COVID only confirmed this.

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    Unless jacinda arden is one I don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnst_nhb View Post
    I know “murderous ways” is hyperbole , but this is exactly how we’ll have this again:

    If we don’t call them morons and we just “give them another chance” then they’ll do it again with impunity. They know this.
    I completely agree. More than calling them morons, actual accountability needs to be demanded and ENFORCED. Furthermore, safeguards need to be put in place, so that this shit does not happen again.
    Regarding Campbell, I was merely pointing out that the guy is trying to make amends to his moronic bullshit that he once peddled (at least with regards to the covid narratives).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grobleaugg View Post
    Well that is convenient that you decided not to count the people who were actually killed so you can maintain your argument. He made an already volatile situation worse. As I said, I can see why it was considered self defense. However, if the one person did not pull up his pistol that was aimed at Rittenhouse and shot him I could easily see that as self defense as well. Would you not agree with this statement?

    I believe the first person he shot who chased him (which is not an action I endorse, because yes the child did have a gun) had mental problems and was just released from a psychiatric ward if my memory is correct. The other two people were shot because they were attempting to apprehend the kid who just shot someone. Keep in mind that this all happened because this kid wanted to protect a literal dumpster fire. Who would have thought that introducing random people with guns into volatile situation who have no training or ability to conduct themselves in these situations is not a good idea? If he was as composed as you say he would not have placed himself in a situation where he may have in fact been running for his life. But I guess that dumpster fire was put out, so lets lionize the kid some more.





    Allow me to be more clear regarding what I meant. What I actually meant is that I did not take the time to read what you linked to. Why? Because it had no bearing on anything that was being discussed regardless if leftists attacked government buildings in the past. You seem to have this view that there are only two sides; your side which you deem to be correct and the other (incorrect) side which you paint as what you think are my beliefs. You can call this leftist vs rightest, liberal vs conservative, you vs me, or whatever else you want to paint these two boxes as. The truth is that these labels simply do not fit with what I have been saying. If a leftist group attacks a government building I would want them to face the same consequences as if a rightest group attacks a government building. If a rioter is rioting and causing property damage they should be charged equally regardless of their political cause. Do you disagree with this statement.






    They are also intellectually lazy and typically used by people you are not smart enough to think for themselves. In the case of those specific memes they did not even directly address anything that I have said and were in fact blatant mischaracterizations of what I said. In other words, they were not in response to what I actually said, but instead the views that you view that I have.



    Now allow me to circle back around to my initial post regarding this rancher who will be on trial. Keep in mind I have neither said he was guilty or innocent. He may have had cause for it to be self defense which can be brought up at trial. I would just expect him to face the same legal consequences any any other man, regardless of race. That is all that I said and look at the dust storm that kicked up.
    Joseph Rosenbaum, Sex offender [CRIMINAL COMPLAINT]
    The 11 counts include:

    COUNT ONE: (PUBLIC SEXUAL INDECENCY TO A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS FIVE FELONY)
    On or about the month of February, 2002 through the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed public sexual indecency to a minor by intentionally or knowingly committing an act of sexual contact by masturbating, while (name removed) a minor under fifteen years of age was present.

    COUNT TWO: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
    On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of sexual intercourse with (second victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by penetrating the victim’s anus with his penis.

    COUNT THREE: (FURNISHING OBSCENE OR HARMFUL ITEMS TO MINORS, A CLASS FOUR FELONY)
    On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM, with knowledge of the character of the item involved, recklessly furnished, presented, provided, made available, gave, lent, showed, advertised, distributed an item harmful to minors, to (second victim), a minor under eighteen years of age, to Wit: photographs of nude women including their genitals.

    COUNT FOUR: (PUBLIC SEXUAL INDECENCY TO A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS FIVE Felony)
    On or about the 27th day at March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed public sexual indecency to a minor by intentionally or knowingly committing an act of sexual contact by masturbating, while (second victim), a minor under fifteen years of age was present.

    COUNT FIVE: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
    On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of sexual intercourse with (third victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by penetrating the victim’s anus with his penis.

    COURT SIX: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
    On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of oral sexual contact with (fourth victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by inserting his penis into the victim’s mouth.

    COUNT SEVEN: (SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
    On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed sexual conduct with a minor, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in an act of oral sexual contact with (fourth victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by placing his mouth on the victim’s penis.

    COUNT EIGHT: (MOLESTATION OF CHILD, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
    On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed molestation of a child by intentionally or knowingly engaging in sexual contact with (fourth victim), a child under the age of fifteen years, involving the genitals, by touching the victim’s penis with his hand.

    COUNT NINE: (MOLESTATION OF CHILD, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
    On or about the 27th day of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed molestation of a child, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in sexual contact with (fourth victim), a child under the age of fifteen years, involving the genitals, by causing the victim to touch his penis.

    COUNT TEN: (MOLESTATION OF CHILD, A CLASS TWO FELONY, A DANGEROUS CRIME AGAINST CHILDREN)
    On or about the month of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM committed molestation of a child, by intentionally or knowingly engaging in sexual contact with (fifth victim), a child under fifteen years of age, involving the genitals, by touching the victim’s penis with his finger.

    COUNT ELEVEN: (INDECENT EXPOSURE TO A MINOR UNDER FIFTEEN, A CLASS SIX FELONY)
    On or about the month of March, 2002, JOSEPH DON ROSENBAUM indecently exposed his genitals to (fifth victim), a minor under the age of fifteen years, by showing the victim his penis.


    Anthony Huber rap sheet
    2018
    940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Dismissed on Prosecutor’s Motion
    Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater
    Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

    2 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
    Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
    Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater

    He also had a case from 2012 with these charges:

    1 941.30(2) 2nd-Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety Felony G Charge Dismissed but Read In
    Modifier: 939.63(1)(c) Use of a Dangerous Weapon
    Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

    2 940.235(1) Strangulation and Suffocation Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
    Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

    3 940.30 False Imprisonment Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
    Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
    Modifier: 939.63(1)(b) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

    4 940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Charge Dismissed but Read In
    Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
    Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

    5 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
    Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
    Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

    6 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
    Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

    Huber’s criminal history came up in court; the prosecutors presented a relative as a character witness, but the defense said if the prosecution continued down that path they would reveal the other side to Huber.

    “[Anthony] Huber told his brother that if he didn’t start cleaning a room in his house he was going to gut him like a pig,” Rittenhouse’s lawyer Corey Chirafisi said in court adding, according to The New York Post that Huber “did this while holding a 6-inch butcher’s knife to the brother’s stomach.”

    “Huber grabbed his brother by the neck, dug his nails in and choked him for approximately ten seconds,” Chirafisi said. “He put a knife to his brother’s left ear and his brother felt it cut.”

    He said: “I’m going to burn the house down with all you f—kers in it,” that defense attorney said.

    Gaige Grosskruetz Rap sheet
    https://archive.md/H3THj

    Jacob Blake
    This is why Jacob Blake had a warrant out for his arrest
    The REAL Story of Jacob Blake That the Media Won't Tell You - TRENDINGRIGHTWING

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Charles View Post
    For a little levity and a comparison to general current affairs:

    If you consider that the Egyptian pyramids were made out of poured concrete and formed on site, a lot of problems are solved. Cutting complicated geometric shapes out of solid stone, moving the stones, getting them up to the high levels, creating perfectly smooth shafts and tunnels….

    The academic authorities hate this idea based on arguments like “ I’m the world’s expert”, “ we’ve solved this. Case closed”, “we already looked at this”, etc.

    However, moving 50lb sacks of dry concrete, water, and building wood forms as you go, makes a lot of sense. Also, each block self levels which eliminates a slew of problems.

    Two questions for everybody: what do you think about the concrete theory (I just watch some youtube nonsense)? And, do you see the similarity to modern medical, academic, and political dogma?
    I have not watched anything regarding the concrete theory, but the fact of the matter is the pyramids are made out of limestone, not concrete. While concrete is made from limestone, it has very different properties. Mike Haduck has a really good video on YouTube of him visiting the pyramids and explaining how he thinks they were made. He’s an old mason and I like his perspective on it. I think the structures in Peru are much more confusing regarding their build for a few reasons. First they are made out of granite, which is much more difficult to shape and heavier than limestone without modern tools like carbide chisels, the location of the structures, and the fact that these civilizations did not have the infrastructure and resources the ancient Egyptians had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grobleaugg View Post
    Keep in mind that this all happened because this kid wanted to protect a literal dumpster fire.
    A dumpster fire at a gas station.

    I get that you think you're being clever by arguing that he killed mentally ill people (who were also child rapists) and all he saved is property, but your argument is ridiculous. People and their property aren't this totally separate thing like you'd like to pretend. If you let rioting child molesters burn down enough buildings then the economic harm kills people, alongside those who died in the buildings they burned down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilead View Post
    I completely agree. More than calling them morons, actual accountability needs to be demanded and ENFORCED. Furthermore, safeguards need to be put in place, so that this shit does not happen again.
    Regarding Campbell, I was merely pointing out that the guy is trying to make amends to his moronic bullshit that he once peddled (at least with regards to the covid narratives).
    Safeguards will not be put in place, because this worked just the way they wanted it to. They wanted to know what we would do, we showed them, and they will continue the testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Richard View Post
    Absolutely no question you are right. Rip’s level of patience far exceeds my own with this nonsense.

    If we would all stop responding to him, or even just [pretend] agree with him so he'd stop typing so much, Rip's patience would be far less tested.

    Now do American society as a whole and imagine how much better off everyone would be if 30-40 years ago we'd just ignored or banished from society all the crazies, vs. trying to be accommodating of and non-discriminatory towards their nonsense. That everyone here thinks they can rationally converse with this newbie, similar to how we tried to rationalize against masking and lockdown and forced-injection laws, shows how fatally flawed our Representative Democracy thinking still is, stuck in done kind of hypothetical utopia.

    I think the 1A only worked when the society was homogeneous enough that on the core cultural issues everyone more or less thought & felt the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Safeguards will not be put in place, because this worked just the way they wanted it to. They wanted to know what we would do, we showed them, and they will continue the testing.
    They most certainly will.
    My statements above is what one would expect from a sane society and level headed people. I have absolutely no hope that any change will actually happen. In fact, I listened to the pandemic Select Subcommittee on the coronavirus Pandemic the other day. And it was basically the same bullshit scripts written by the same puppeteers (whomever they are). Common sense was said by some of the outlying opinions but then come in the Democrats and stole the platform to promote even harsher policies in the up and coming debacle.
    Select Subcommittee Roundtable: Examining COVID Policy Decisions - YouTube

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