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    Quote Originally Posted by vkp78 View Post
    The clip that I posted showed how absurd the idea of proportionality is.
    Hamas wants to kill all the Jews (it's in their charter). Hamas has killed Jews. Now Israel wants to wipe out Hamas. Israel is still desperately trying to avoid civilian casualties (unavoidable as that may be). Otherwise, like you implied, it will all be over in an afternoon.
    This misses a big part of the picture. Israel does want the cultural genocide of the Palestinians. They want to neuter their religious beliefs, and turn them into secular thinking "democrats". The key to destroying any long standing culture.

    I was thinking about how pacifying weed, sexual revolution, porn, legally drugging energetic young boys, and degenerate media are. If the Muslims did not have what many might think of as silly nonsense religious prohibitions, Israel would have already pacified them using such sorcery. Their "archaic nonsense" is the key to their culture's survival. It's like a pair of giant dogs guarding their front door. Sure, you might argue the culture deserves to be destroyed, but at least lay the culturally genocidal intentions on the table. Be imperial supremacists with pride.

    And I just plain, flat out don't believe you on the "desperately trying to avoid". I don't believe it about the US government anymore either. It's all bullshit. Dresden is the desired method. Kill literally as many as you can get away with in whatever international political environment you happen to find yourself in.

    One last thing that's really fascinating, from a propaganda-informed viewpoint, is how so many conservatives who no longer believe the narrative of the US government still latch on to the Israeli government's narrative without even thinking twice. It's quite the phenomenon.

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    Hanson does better than most, but he still simply trusts the narrative on a lot of things. He was also horribly wrong on the Iraq war, so he's clearly not as astute as someone like Pat Buchanan.

    Call me crazy, but it seems to me like there might be more to learn from the guys who were right than the guys who were wrong.

    Why the Paleos Were Right About Iraq - Twenty years after the Iraq invasion: The paleocons were right about the Iraq War because they were right about liberalism.

    I don’t agree with my fellow paleos on everything; that would be impossible, given their diversity. And I understand why liberals—left, right, and center—find them so disagreeable. But in matters of life and death, matters of war and peace, anyone who feels the slightest sense of responsibility must grapple with the awkward fact that the disrespectful right seems to have something to teach the more enlightened precincts of American punditry. A stopped clock may only be right twice a day, but that is two times more often than a clock that has been set wrong.

    One of the qualities that makes the anti-neocon right so objectionable to liberals is precisely what makes “unpatriotic conservatives” smarter about war than their neoconservative opponents. Are you ready for it?

    It is their rejection of liberalism itself—even the libertarians of the anti-neocon right do not subscribe to the liberalism that unites the respectable elite in this country. With this rejection of an idea comes a rejection of the class that embodies it, namely, that very same respectable elite. The paleos are outsiders and “aginners,” even on those rare occasions when they are inside institutions like Congress. They do not believe that America’s leaders in public or private life are good or competent, or that the ideas that inspire them are necessarily benign or realistic. They do not believe that with smart enough and virtuous enough liberals in charge, Washington will do the right thing and do it well—because the philosophical keystone of the entire edifice is unsound. Of course it failed in Iraq and Afghanistan. (And no, it didn’t succeed after World War II: not liberal idealism but the threat of Soviet domination led Japan and Germany to embrace the American order. Far from that being the end of history for those states, the liberalism that served a useful purpose during the Cold War has become a source of dangerous irresponsibility in the post-Cold War world.)

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    I remember Hanson’s prominent neoconservative cheerleading of the war in Iraq, of which I was vaguely, naively supportive. And I remember sneering at what his critics wrote of him (also this). That was about 20 years ago.

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    Israel'''s 15 ceasefires - Don Surber

    Hamas-shielding AP inadvertently drew attention to the history of Israel’s ceasefires with Palestinians — pauses in a 76-year war. Palestinians use ceasefires to reload before breaking the truce by attacking Israel again. Israel reloads as well as it plans counterattacks.

    AP has sided with the Palestinians for as long as I can remember. For over a decade, its bureau in Gaza City provided cover for Hamas — the latest name for Palestine’s terrorist army. Hamas governs Gaza. The continuing war against Israel has brought Shi’as (who back Hezbollah) together with Sunnis (Hamas) to fight a common enemy — Jews.

    In 2021, Israel finally unveiled the ruse, called AP, gave them an hour to pack up and leave, and then destroyed the building. The warning sadly allowed Hamas terrorists to escape as well.
    And we know everybody is lying to us, which makes this difficult to sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Israel's 15 ceasefires - Don Surber



    And we know everybody is lying to us, which makes this difficult to sort.
    Why did Israel hold the scorched-earth approach until now? Haven’t they always known exactly what Hamas is and intends to do? Further, with that knowledge, wouldn’t every citizen be required to be always armed, like a super-2A? There’s been ample strategic thinking and contingency planning to identify that obvious need.

    I don’t tend to conspiracies, so this is beginning to look like gross tragic incompetence. And now they’re panicking - understandably.

    Some article on the Duran suggested, slightly tongue-in-cheek, that a heavyweight (like Russia) bust into the room and make them both get along for a few centuries. Then try again at self-rule. This is not to draw moral equivalency, but merely a way to slow down the doomsday clock.

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    New emails show DHS created Stanford ‘disinfo’ group that censored speech before 2020 election

    Reminder that yes, the election was stolen.

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    DeSantis Gave ‘Women’s Spirit’ Award to Trans Man, Calling Him ‘Shining Role Model’ & ‘Mentor & Advocate to Children’.

    It's mildly encouraging that people instinctively rejected DeSantis, with almost no convincing needed. They just intuited that the man is a fraud, in spite of all his COVID posturing.

    It's also nice to know that George Soros' Plan A has failed:

    In a wide-ranging speech, Soros ripped Trump’s presidency and complemented elements of DeSantis’s style. “DeSantis is shrewd, ruthless, and ambitious,” said Soros, adding, “He is likely to be the Republican candidate.”

    Trump, on the other hand, “has turned into a pitiful figure continually bemoaning his loss in 2020. Big Republican donors are abandoning him in droves,” he said.
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    FBI recruits for new hires at Charlotte Pride event

    The Lavender Stasi continues to grow.

    Canada Set to Take 500,000 Palestinian Refugees Due to “Lenient” Immigration Policy

    Then conservatives can complain about the new cultural foreigners protesting in their cities, point at how bad they are, and use that to justify more war for Israel, which results in even more of the culturally foreign people imported to complain about. What a magnificent grift spiral.

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    For levity:

    Why doesn’t Apple Maps let you avoid high crime neighborhoods? It lets you avoid tolls, or highways, and has police alerts. I’m sure the data is available (and same for Google maps). For those that aren’t in major cities much or at all, I assure you routing to the airport or a hockey game can be a nail bitting ride if caught off guard. See movie “vacation”.

    I have my own guesses but want to see what you guys think!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VNV View Post
    Why did Israel hold the scorched-earth approach until now? Haven’t they always known exactly what Hamas is and intends to do? Further, with that knowledge, wouldn’t every citizen be required to be always armed, like a super-2A? There’s been ample strategic thinking and contingency planning to identify that obvious need.

    I don’t tend to conspiracies, so this is beginning to look like gross tragic incompetence. And now they’re panicking - understandably.
    The level of perceived incompetence needed for everything from October 7 to occur requires a heavy suspension of basic reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anticausal View Post
    This misses a big part of the picture. Israel does want the cultural genocide of the Palestinians. They want to neuter their religious beliefs, and turn them into secular thinking "democrats". The key to destroying any long standing culture....
    I mentioned, but did not post this recent speech by Netanyahu that makes clear Israel's intentions and desire to completely genocide the Palestinians; they want to genocide the Palestinians just as much as the Palestinians want to genocide the Israelis.
    Both the Palestinians and the Israelis openly hate Western Civilization, America, Christians and White people; in many instances, calling for a complete genocide of White people.
    An article on Bibi's speech:Warrant for Genocide: Netanyahu urges Israeli troops to regard the Palestinians as "Amalek", by Michael Hoffman - The Unz Review

    “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”

    Quote Originally Posted by anticausal View Post
    Then conservatives can complain about the new cultural foreigners protesting in their cities, point at how bad they are, and use that to justify more war for Israel, which results in even more of the culturally foreign people imported to complain about. What a magnificent grift spiral.
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    This is an absolutely despicable act of propaganda from the World Jewish Congress:
    World Jewish Congress Depict Whites Tearing Down Posters When In Reality It Is Muslims

    Can any of our Jewish posters or anyone else explain the hierarchy and functioning of these global, federated, quasi-governmental Jewish organizations?
    I have seen several, such as the "World Jewish Congress" working with other similar "Jewish Federations" and religious organizations or synagogues in smaller nations or localities to solicit donations, lobby for Israeli interests and to disseminate/promote woke ideology from other large Jewish organizations, such as the ADL

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    Probably not surprising to those that aren’t citizens of a totalitarian penal colony, but we have a national electronic health record system in Australia. Small mercy - we can opt out of it, at least for now. What surprised me, because I’m clearly a bit slow, is that any person 14 years or older is responsible for their own health records. My 14yo son had an ultrasound. I asked for a copy of the results. They said my son had to sign an authority to release the info to me.

    My natural reaction was to crack the shits – no 14yo I know has any clue about handling medical issues and appointments. Then it dawned on me that this can only be for two main reasons - firstly, to pressure compliance with the My Health Record system. Secondly, because (according to a Gov-funded Australian Parenting Website), "Confidentiality is one of the biggest concerns for teenagers. If they feel that confidentiality might be broken, it can stop them from seeking help. Also, private time with health professionals can build trust and help teenagers feel confident to talk about personal issues. You can help your child feel comfortable about seeking support for their health by respecting their right to privacy and talking with them about confidentiality. "

    Or maybe I’m being paranoid about why the government is all of a sudden concerned about kids being able to keep secrets from their parents.

    Re covid - a small but noticeable uptick in mask wearers and MSM fearmongering about “the 8th covid wave is here!” - the Bad Cat is consistently good reading.

    “the markers of rebellion and “get out of my face” in the 80’s (piercings, colored hair, tattoos) have morphed into the signifiers of an orthodoxy centered on “my feelings are your fault, now fix it!” these people are literally admitting that they have no self control or self possession and that they require the rest of the world to “ally” with them to make it all OK. it’s an admission that they are neither autonomous nor adult. it is always you and not they who must change, you and not they who must accommodate.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    And we know everybody is lying to us, which makes this difficult to sort.
    Well, let's take a look at what we have enough perspective on to have some truth. Ireland. Ireland is arguably the best analogy for what's going on now. We know what that peace looks like, what it took. No flags waving, no parades, but a metric fuckton of forgiveness for the sake of peace and the next generation. I don't mean deep in your heart forgiveness. I mean social forgiveness. Looking the other way instead of pushing for vengeance at every slight. I don't see us getting that yet from the Jews and Arabs.

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