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Thread: Rip: When To Do the Lifts "Wrong"

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    Default Rip: When To Do the Lifts "Wrong"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Sad that this is a necessary clarification, but it seems like its necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatButWeak View Post
    Sad that this is a necessary clarification, but it seems like its necessary.
    I wouldn't classify it as sad. I'm sitting right in the middle of these thoughts in my head. I hurt my hip years ago and to this day it gets really easily irritated and the older I get (just turned 52) it easier it happens. I had a modest DL of 400 lb last year with my eyes set to 500 within a year....except my my hip just will not agree to it. But one doesn't want to be a wuss so you follow Rip's advice and keep at it....until it says FU!! Right now, I can't even get 300 lb off the floor without it screaming at me and me paying for it for days, sometimes to the point I then can't squat. I WANT to DL. I WANT to get to 500 but I am seriously thinking that injury isn't going to have it so I moved to rack pulls as they don't fuck up my hip and I can keep squatting too.

    I personally thought it was a good article reminding us why we lift and what to do when you can't (not won't) do the program.

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    What's wrong with your hip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    What's wrong with your hip?
    With a straight bar, I have to front squat or SSB. I have had bilateral multiple shoulder dislocations, two surgeries, and I have dislocated it several times in the back squat position. Its just not worth it to risk the dislocation, so I front squat, which I dislike greatly. So I use a Safety Squat Bar most of the time. However, in the last 3 years I have trained people, I don't think I taught the front squat exclusively to anyone.

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    I might be wrong but it feels like a nagging injury was not really intended to fall under the exceptions permitted in the column.

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    Because I have a tiled floor in the garage I put a rubber pad under each plate, (I never told you this) about 1/14 inch thick, so technically for the dead lift I am getting a slight "rack pull" advantage. Am I cheating or are old guys in the later years of life allowed a few indiscretions over the strict dead lift procedure? Last year I got a 170Kg dead lift (nearly killed me) with these pads. Do you want me to go back and amend the records for those lifts and de-rate them by 10% or will you look the other way? If you allow this next time I am at the Falls I will shout you an Aussie burger.

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    You're shim is fine, wal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    You're shim is fine, wal.
    Well in that case do you want the recipe for an Aussie burger in case I fail to show up in your fair city? One other thing 170 Kg dead lift at a body weight of 75kg and at 66 years old in your judgement is that a reasonable outcome for your Starting Strength training model?

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    Not a bad deadlift at all, with your bodyweight being that low. Eat more hamburgers.

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