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    “Ivermectin has shown strong anti-viral and anti-inflammatory effects in numerous controlled and observational studies, reducing covid mortality even in severe cases by up to 90%.” -Swiss Policy Research

    There is a group of physicians called the FLCCC that have been publishing their findings on COVID treatment: "The Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance was created by highly published critical care specialists from major academic medical centers with collectively over 1,000 medical publications."

    Dr. Kory of the FLCCC recently presented in front of congress and urged them to look at the success that they, and many other physicians around the world, have been having with Ivermectin.

    Here is a one-page summary of their findings.

    Here is a running list of studies on Ivermectin and COVID-19. 44 in total, 17 have been peer reviewed.

    Here is a study on Ivermectin for prophylaxis.

    Ivermectin has been around for 40 years. It's used to treat parasites, scabies, malaria, etc. It's well tolerated. Side effects are rare. Contraindications are known and are well documented.

    I wanted to try my luck getting a prescription for it. My GP turned me down. He had no rebuttal for my arguments, nor the data I provided, other than "it's not approved" for the treatment of COVID-19. This is true. Keep in mind the NIH hasn't updated their guidance since August and have been focused on novel solutions like the vaccine, while much of the developing world has been using Ivermectin with great success.

    Also, Wikipedia says not to take it.

    I decided to find a doctor that's a proponent of this treatment, get a prescription, and have it on hand in case I needed it.

    I found Dr. Joseph Holmes (text his office to schedule a phone appointment at 980-264-9020) from the FLCCC's FAQ page which linked to a directory of doctors that are prescribing Ivermectin.

    Meanwhile, my wife had taken a COVID test. Her symptoms began the day her test came back positive. I took Ivermectin as a prophylactic and she took Ivermectin same day. Dose: 0.2mg/kg of bodyweight. Her symptoms stopped progressing. I have not gotten sick - and we just spent 14 hours in the car together. Granted, I may be one of the majority that are asymptomatic, so feel free to disregard that as a potential coincidence.

    At the same time, my wife's close friend was dealing with an annoying case of COVID. She listened to our view of the risk assessment and decided to try Ivermectin herself. She took it at 8:30pm on Jan 30th. Knowing that it's common to see results in around three hours, I asked her to update us before she went to bed. She said "what is this miracle drug" and was surprised to report a noticeable improvement in symptoms. Since then her symptoms have remained consistent and less severe than they were previously.

    This evening, a close friend of mine went through the same process. He had sinus pressure, a fever, congestion, etc. He took Ivermectin after lunch and called me earlier tonight. I asked him how he was doing and he said he wouldn't have called had he been feeling as poorly as he was earlier. He's now convinced enough that he discussed Ivermectin with the physician overseeing his father's care - his father was just admitted into the hospital after a sudden drop in O2 saturation due to a COVID-19 infection.

    One of Rip's buddies in Utah had several family members and colleagues get COVID. He treated eight of them with the horse paste (what a sentence), including himself. Half of those he treated were better by the next day, himself included, and the other four had the progression of their symptoms plateau. A much better outcome that those that didn't take it.

    The FLCCC recommends one 0.2mg/kg of bodyweight dose for active infections and a second dose three days later.

    Dr. Holmes prescribes accordingly and adds weekly doses for the following two weeks. Holmes also prescribes weekly doses for four weeks for prophylaxis.

    We had our friends and family members get prescriptions to have on hand, in case of emergency. Some of the pharmacies were sold out. I have liquid Ivermectin (conversion: 10mg/mL) and Ivermectin paste on hand just in case we need it and the rx isn't available.

    Can anyone provide a compelling argument against the use of Ivermectin? Does anyone have their own stories to share?

    Disclaimer: This isn't medical advice and I'm not a medical professional.
    Last edited by Ray Gillenwater; 01-02-2021 at 02:29 AM.

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    To persuade a Dr. to prescribe ivermectin for the off-label use, you may need to persuade the Doctor it is a “medically appropriate” use. I got an off label prescription from my primary care Dr. to prevent my contracting the virus (or to diminish the severity of the symptomsj by pointing to pp. 7-10 of the FLCC prophylaxis paper, reminding him that I have some scar tissue in my lungs, telling him about two close co-workers who are vulnerable that I need to protect, and promising to behave myself. I also let him know I had been watching these reports primarily because I used ivermectin for yers on my horses, which I thought might give him some reassurance that I was not obsessing unhealthily.

    I got it with an e-mail, but I’d been there for a check-up about five weeks ago. If I read between the lines of his response, he’ll be taking it himself.

    Read pp. 7-10 on the prophylaxis review if you think it might be worth taking it to prevent infection.

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    Because it’s not “science,” Ray.

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    I buy it at tractor supply and use it to prevent heart worms in my 9 bird dogs

    Been using it for this purpose for over thirty years

    No prescription needed

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    I don’t know the answer to your question. But I did look at the meta analysis you linked.

    A pooled analysis would be better than their aggregation of reported effects (though I understand they don’t have access to this data.) That would allow stratification by age and comorbidities, which is essential for studying COVID-19. And they should indicate which RCTs are pre-registered. But overall, this meta-review is at least as high quality as something from Cochran, and it is being updated dynamically. It’s a useful resource.

    Yet, the authors (apparently a group of PhDs) publish it anonymously because they fear reprisal. For their efforts, they have been banned by Twitter. What a ridiculous state of affairs.

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    Does Twitter have a financial interest in the vaccine? This seems like a reasonable question. Why develop a billion-dollar vaccine when effective treatment is $2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satch12879 View Post
    Because it’s not “science,” Ray.
    Because Fauci and Gates have no financial interest in ivermectin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnst_nhb View Post
    Because Fauci and Gates have no financial interest in ivermectin.
    It’s not about money; the narrative must be maintained.

    Man has no agency; the state and its agents are your only saviors.

    Only our experts may speak; a plurality of opinion cannot be tolerated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satch12879 View Post
    It’s not about money; the narrative must be maintained.

    Man has no agency; the state and its agents are your only saviors.

    Only our experts may speak; a plurality of opinion cannot be tolerated.
    What do you think the motive is for maintaining the narrative?

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