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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Donaldson View Post
    Come on, wal - I'm donning my Captain Pedantic suit here - you're being sloppy with definitions here.

    In modern English usage, "faith" has a wide semantic range. Rip's using it in one common sense, that of "a settled belief on grounds other than evidence." You're using it in a different common sense, that of "a settled trust based off of experience and/or evidence" when you apply it to Rip himself.

    Similarly, "Climate Change" as Rip used it is referring to a set of beliefs that global climate is harmfully shifting to become warmer as a result of human-caused factors, presenting a threat of extinction for human beings, if not all life on the planet, for which humans are responsible to make changes to those human-caused factors. Saying "Climate Change" as a technical term is far more concise, and presumably why he capitalized the term there. That's what he's coupling with that first definition of faith.

    Your use of the term to denote change in weather easily observable in a short period of time by direct personal observation, is actually compatible with the second use of faith, in the sense that you trust (based on experience and evidence) that the weather will continue to be hot down there for the summer. It does not fit the first use, as they are essentially distinct.
    Faith is not trust; hope is trust. The latter proceeds from the former.

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    Fired up some ribeye steaks over hickory charcoal today. Sometimes I sear it first over the hot coals, then let it rest and smoke a bit, other times I'll let it smoke and then sear it at the end.

    Either way, I've found no other food that makes me feel better than a medium rare steak cooked over a fire.

    Anyway, if the government says it's bad for me and the"environment" to šonsume beef, it just makes it taste better somehow!

    Do Countries with Highest Meat Consumption Have More Health Issues? - YouTube

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    More on the CO2 mythology: Fiddling with Volcanic CO2 | The Pipeline

    The volume of volcanic CO2 emissions has been substantially underestimated. Because naturally-emitted CO2 and Co2 emitted as a result of human activity have the very same isotopes, it is impossible to distinguish the source and has not been accurately assessed for a number of reasons. For example, the amount of CO2 from volcanic action cited over and again is based on an analysis of only seven active volcanoes and three seafloor emitting volcanos (o.oo.1 percent of earth’s volcanic features). Recent studies indicate massive amounts of C02 are emitted from non-erupting volcanos, such as Greenland’s Katla volcano.

    A recent study, authored by Hermann Harde, a professor of Experimental Physics and Materials Science at Helmut-Schmidt-University in Hamburg, indicates that CO2 emissions from volcanos and other natural causes are six times higher than man-made sources. Not only is the data relied on to argue against this phenomenon surprisingly inaccurate, the claim of higher human-sourced CO2 relies on a fiddling of the record of how long these emissions remain in the atmosphere.

    According to a new study, the claim that increases in atmospheric CO2 are driven exclusively by humans relies on a made-up, disparate accounting model, with the residence time for natural emissions three to four years (which is consistent with actual observations), but CO2 from human sources is claimed to have a residence time of 50 to over 100 years. [emphasis, links added]

    The 15 to 30 times longer residence time for human emissions is an imaginary conceptualization that is wholly inconsistent with (1) bomb tests (1963) and (2) seasonal CO2 variations found in real-world observations. Human emissions account for under 5 percent of the total from all sources, natural and anthropogenic.
    Bumping this so it doesn't get lost:

    Really, think about this: A 4.6 billion-year-old planet with an 8000-mile diameter, with a molten core (heat, etc.), with an atmosphere that is only 50 miles/240,000ft thick (being rather generous), that orbits a star only 93 million miles away with 330,000 times the earth's mass and that emits enough radiation to burn your naked ass in 30 minutes, is having its weather unalterably changed over the course of the next 5/10/15 years (whatever it is now) by the presence of a weak greenhouse gas, CO2, that happens to now be at its lowest level in damn near the entire history of the planet -- a history punctuated by global glaciations while that weak greenhouse gas was far higher than it is now -- and that also happens to be the basis of plant life (and therefore atmospheric oxygen), a gas whose greenhouse effect is dwarfed by that of water vapor (on a planet with a surface area that consists of 70% water), and that geologically is currently in an interglacial period. The models that generated this political bullshit have predicted nothing correctly -- not sea level change, polar ice cover, or weather.

    And everybody believes it anyway, to the extent that they are handing the management of the world's economy to elderly megalomaniacs with an agenda based on their own personal power. You're not even allowed to question it -- otherwise sensible people have agreed with the ridiculous premise that CO2 is a deadly poison that must be eliminated from the surface of the earth. Every August, everybody runs around like it's not supposed to be hot. Every time there's a drought, everybody acts like it's the very first time it's been dry too long. "Hurricane season" started in June, and how many hurricanes have devastated the coastlines already inundated by the molten ice caps? How many times over the past 20 years of this shit have the hurricane predictions been correct?

    Really, the children are in charge now, seeking validation for "caring about the planet," running around yelling about "carbon" -- the 4th most abundant element in the physical universe --being a deadly poison. Their managers are common criminals whose entire agenda is money and control, and we are letting it happen. It is the result of the shitty science education we received in the government schools, and it probably cannot be stopped.

    And in addition, the Government that brought you the flu from China, lockdowns, and vaccines that killed far more people than the flu, the Government in charge of "public education", the war(s) in Asia, the economy, and pronouns wants to also be in charge of the weather. Because the people in the government like power and money.

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    Thank you to whoever pointed out that there was a massive undersea volcanic eruption maybe a year or two ago that dumped a massive amount of CO2 into the atmosphere causing the unseasonably warm and particularly humid weather we saw in the northern hemisphere this past year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satch12879 View Post
    Thank you to whoever pointed out that there was a massive undersea volcanic eruption maybe a year or two ago that dumped a massive amount of CO2 into the atmosphere causing the unseasonably warm and particularly humid weather we saw in the northern hemisphere this past year.
    Except that there was nothing unseasonable about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    More on the CO2 mythology: Fiddling with Volcanic CO2 | The PipelineBecause the people in the government like power and money.
    Some folk in the US would say that is precisely what Trump will do if he gets the Presidency back in 2024, that is gain more power and money, although "control" would be a more precise term and it appears that your mate Biden is getting smashed in the polls so the panic is setting in.

    If he reintroduces "Schedule F" it could create a drastic response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wal View Post
    Some folk in the US would say that is precisely what Trump will do if he gets the Presidency back in 2024, that is gain more power and money, although "control" would be a more precise term and it appears that your mate Biden is getting smashed in the polls so the panic is setting in.
    "Some people" are the media people. Again, what power and control did he "seize" during his first administration? Exactly what did he DICTATE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    "Some people" are the media people. Again, what power and control did he "seize" during his first administration? Exactly what did he DICTATE?
    The "some people" are more than your left leaning media, more like those that control your various government entities that Trump would dispose off if he should regain the Presidency. These folk are worried that Trump will begin fortress America and that he will set back American foreign policy to the dark ages, that he will remove the Net Zero gains and kick out the UN (probably not a bad idea)from the the US and destroy democracy in the process.

    "We believe that a democracy needs, among other things, a strong liberal party and a strong conservative party in order to flourish. Our concern is that the Republican Party has mortgaged itself to an antidemocratic demagogue, one who is completely devoid of decency."

    A Warning About a Second Trump Term - The Atlantic

    "Trump mocked fears about his authoritarianism tendencies at a Fox News town hall on Tuesday, stating he'd be a dictator only on "Day 1" so that he could close the border and start drilling.

    "After that, I'm not a dictator, OK?" Trump told host Sean Hannity to applause from the Iowa crowd."

    Trump's not-so-secret plans for unprecedented power : NPR

    Folk are worried,it is not only the politics, but the ultra conservative Christian Right that have plans for the US, a plan to make the US the equivalent of a "Christian Caliphate".

    "Trump is saying, once again, that he will serve as a backstop against an erosion of power felt by a subset of Americans. He is telling those Americans — White Christian conservatives — that he will make them the focus of America’s protective power."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...n-immigration/

    I thought that "Schedule F" was the power that he seized in his first term, the executive power to fire any civil service employee which includes those folk in the FBI, IRS, EPA and so on, the "deep state". This above all has the bureaucrats, law enforcement, the whole Biden admin in such a spin as to do all they can to stop him from regaining control, I thought that was obvious, a knife pointed right at the heart.

    Just a moment...

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    wal, this is all bullshit. Complete bullshit. And it's bullshit like this that's going to get him assassinated. ONE MORE TIME: when he had the power to dictate, what did he dictate? What power did he seize?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    wal, this is all bullshit. Complete bullshit. And it's bullshit like this that's going to get him assassinated. ONE MORE TIME: when he had the power to dictate, what did he dictate? What power did he seize?
    It maybe be bullshit as you say, however you have to ask yourself why is there such a tumult over his impending retaking of the highest seat of power in the world, he has got the UN rattled as well as other left leaning governments including ours. What would you do if your existence was in peril. Mark Trump is an autocrat that is how he ran his various businesses and that is how he will run the US if he regains control, that maybe good or maybe bad I do not know. You asked what power did he seize? I have said the "Schedule F" an executive order which was rescinded by Biden this is what is causing all the flak. The civil service does not want to loose its protections, that is why there is such pressure to stop Trump. Mark your country has a record of assassinating leaders, has this policy changed lately?

    I could be wrong, but that is what it appears to be whether you like it or not.

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