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    Youíre quite right Mark, to single out this event in that the actual female competitors in the meet applauded this guy.

    This is incredibly galling considering that there are athletes like Riley Gaines out there every day standing up for womenís sports at tremendous personal cost to themselves. What a slap in the face this is to heros like her.

    Truly shameful.

    Also, people might be tired of hearing your message on this point but personally, I donít think you should <I>ever</I> stop bringing it up until the problem is fixed. Your voice as an opinion leader on this matter is too important.

    Donít stop fighting on behalf of this inequity my friend.

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    Iím kind of a diplomatic guy, and I know a few , letís just say raging leftists, up here in Canada. Iím thinking now of my tattoo artist. Itís hard to find a good one that isnít woke. I try not to judge, and her and I in the early days had many a bitter argument about guns, for one thing. This is just a data point, but one day as she was causing me great pain, I broached this question with her, and was pleasantly surprised at her answer. Sheís very pro trans rights, but sheís furious about this. I would suspect that this position of ď anything goesĒ is a media construct. Way less support in general even among their own people than they would have us believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFord View Post
    Also, people might be tired of hearing your message on this point but personally, I donít think you should <I>ever</I> stop bringing it up until the problem is fixed. Your voice as an opinion leader on this matter is too important.

    Donít stop fighting on behalf of this inequity my friend.
    You may have missed the point. Competitive congenital female athletes are the ones who have to put a stop to this. Men will continue to shatter womenís records as long as women will allow it to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Schexnayder View Post
    You may have missed the point. Competitive congenital female athletes are the ones who have to put a stop to this. Men will continue to shatter womenís records as long as women will allow it to happen.
    By me having possibly ďmissed the pointĒ, do you mean to imply that men standing in solidarity with women on this largely womanís issue is somehow not helpful nor is a successful resolution to this problem potentially beneficial to all segments of society?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFord View Post
    By me having possibly ďmissed the pointĒ, do you mean to imply that men standing in solidarity with women on this largely womanís issue is somehow not helpful nor is a successful resolution to this problem potentially beneficial to all segments of society?
    Very leading question(s) youíve got there. The point is that literally everyone other than the athletes involved in this sport and the sportís governing body can have a problem with this and argue against it, but as long as the players play the game it doesnít stop.

    I doubt many female athletes are truly unaware of the advantage their trans (I.e., male) counterparts have. I do think that some of them maybe donít realize that if they actually end up beating the men they compete with, then the problem only actually gets worse.

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    When such man, who decides to call themself a woman for an athletic competition, gets into a male prison, do they stll insist they are a woman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmitry View Post
    When such man, who decides to call themself a woman for an athletic competition, gets into a male prison, do they stll insist they are a woman?
    A terribly interesting question. I wonder if it's happened yet? I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmitry View Post
    When such man, who decides to call themself a woman for an athletic competition, gets into a male prison, do they stll insist they are a woman?
    No, they sue and get transferred to a women's prison

    Trans inmate to move to women's prison after settling lawsuit against Minnesota : NPR

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    I'll ask people I know who work in the prison system. My understanding is men pretending to be women are placed into the women's prison and women pretending to be men are placed into the men's prison.

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