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    Default Texas method 6x a week(upper/lower day)

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    I just finished the advanced progression of SS as written in practical programming and started moving onto Texas method. but between the kids and work I don't consistently have 2 hours to lift on the volume days, however I could do 1 hour(or a little more on the volume leg day) a night 6x a week. Would doing the following routine be ok- (I know it of course wouldn't be as good as the as written routine)?

    Mon: Squat and Power clean or snatch volume day
    Tues: Bench or press volume day
    Weds: Squat and snatch or clean recovery day
    Thurs: Press or bench recovery day
    Fri: Squat and deadlift intensity day
    Sat: Bench or press intensity day

    Or am I missing out on a lot by doing this and would be better off just doing a totally different routine?

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    What is it with this sudden influx of people wanting to lift 6x/week? Is there someone out there advocating it?

    Huskers, look at how the NLP is modified as you go along. DL every training day becomes every other training day. Squats go from every day increases to a "light day" in between increases. Maybe the press goes from 3 sets of 5 to 5 sets of 3. What each of these has in common is making an incremental change, preferably of a single independent variable at a time, to resume progress and see what happens.

    Don't jump wholesale to a new program - tweak the one you have. Make small, discrete changes and see what happens. This way, you'll learn more about how your body responds, and what you need right now. Not every change you make will work - and that's okay. That's how you learn. It's how you grow.

    Post-novice programming is where you learn how to program, but look at the prescribed changes and how they worked for you to get ideas on how to move forward. Over time, yes, your program will look like an established one, be it HLM, 4-day split, or even MAYBE Texas Method. (Though it probably won't look like TM, because just the fact that you have kids and work means you're not the sort of person for whom TM will work anyway, as you already see.)

    What you propose will beat you into the ground, because of the nature of the SRA cycle, and the fact that squats and DLs are not "leg day" exercises. It's not about body parts.

    Unless you're on steroids. If you are, then...have at it, I guess?

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    Just do a 4 day split. You can have a heavy day and a medium day at each lift weekly. I think the grey book states strength training or so called "power lifting" is better with splits that call for 3 to 4 days.

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    Four day split in the grey book is what they usually recommend. Hlms work well too, but there’s a few videos where rip says don’t to tm unless you’re a young guy with no responsibilities

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    TM works best for young guys who can usually sleep 8+ hrs per night, consistently eat a large nutritious calorie surplus and don't have circumstances that even occasionally might get in the way of recovery.

    So dads working full time (especially a physical job) might be better suited with some other intermediate programming found in PPST3. Hopefully others in the same circumstance will chime in with what they've had good results from.

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    6 days a week would be rough recovery wise. & also eat up your time in a different way. You'd go from having 4 flexible nights a week to only 1.

    I'm not the expert but if it was me: 3 days where you cap it out at 1.30 or 1.45 hours & arrange your time differently. If you really could only spend an hour a day than imo: 4 days > 5 days > 6 days.

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    I think at the heart of this is the "active recovery" thing.

    "Active recovery" is a myth. There is nothing you can do in the gym that makes you recover better than resting. The "recovery day" in the Texas method is not "light weights which facilitate recovery", but "light weights which are light enough to ALLOW for recovery." If detraining wasn't a concern, you would spend Wednesdays at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Donaldson View Post
    What is it with this sudden influx of people wanting to lift 6x/week? Is there someone out there advocating it?

    Huskers, look at how the NLP is modified as you go along. DL every training day becomes every other training day. Squats go from every day increases to a "light day" in between increases. Maybe the press goes from 3 sets of 5 to 5 sets of 3. What each of these has in common is making an incremental change, preferably of a single independent variable at a time, to resume progress and see what happens.

    Don't jump wholesale to a new program - tweak the one you have. Make small, discrete changes and see what happens. This way, you'll learn more about how your body responds, and what you need right now. Not every change you make will work - and that's okay. That's how you learn. It's how you grow.

    Post-novice programming is where you learn how to program, but look at the prescribed changes and how they worked for you to get ideas on how to move forward. Over time, yes, your program will look like an established one, be it HLM, 4-day split, or even MAYBE Texas Method. (Though it probably won't look like TM, because just the fact that you have kids and work means you're not the sort of person for whom TM will work anyway, as you already see.)

    What you propose will beat you into the ground, because of the nature of the SRA cycle, and the fact that squats and DLs are not "leg day" exercises. It's not about body parts.

    Unless you're on steroids. If you are, then...have at it, I guess?
    It just is a lot easier for me to do 45 min to an 1:15 6x a week than over 2 hours some days. Since an 1:15 is already close to my max time available. So if this was possible to run like I layed out above(or another version that is better as recommended by the experts here).
    I have already ran all the beginner modifications(deadlift/PC alternating with GHRs), I did the 5 with 2 back off sets, then I did the 3 reps version. I have milked all I could out of the beginner LP.

    However, what you said about the SRA cycle was the piece that I was missing. You need a day between lifts even if they don't hit the same muscles in order to recover properly. I will look for a different program. Thank you.

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    Yes and all of the programs in there(that I can recall for intermediates) were 3 or 4 day routines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnsonville View Post
    Four day split in the grey book is what they usually recommend. Hlms work well too, but there’s a few videos where rip says don’t to tm unless you’re a young guy with no responsibilities
    I am only 26 so I don't think I'm to old for it, its the time issue since I need only get 75 maybe 85 minutes top per day at the gym. I will look into HLMS.

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