Milk mean old mr gravity

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## Milk mean old mr gravity

In Momg there's this question that really confuses me.

Northernyogi :Was thinking of switching from whole milk to half and half. When I looked at the stats on both, it looked like I could get the same of everything with half the volume (1/2 gal of half and half vs.1 gal of whole milk). Your thoughts?

Rippetoe :You looked at the stats wrong half a gallon of half and half has twice the fat, one third the carbs, and less than half the protein than 1 gallon of milk, If you want less volume get evaporated milk.

How could this be true when I look at the stats whole milk has less protein than half half (halffull) per 100 ml and more fat.

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???

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/d...-products/69/2
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/d...-products/48/2

Then, divide the half and half numbers by 2 to figure out the ratios.

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Not sure what stats you're using. Regarding protein: even if whole milk has the same or less protein per 100 ml, like you say, you can still see why a full gallon of milk would have more protein than 1/2 gallon of half-and-half, can't you? Per-unit measurements don't decide the issue when the units being consumed are different.

As for fat, half-and-half has much more per serving.

Whole milk: http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutriti...ric/whole-milk (8g fat per cup/8 oz.)

Half-and-half: http://caloriecount.about.com/calori...uid-half-i1049 (27.8g fat per cup)

Read Rip's answer again carefully: "half a gallon of half and half has twice the fat . . . and less than half the protein than 1 gallon of milk." Think about it. It makes sense.

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I live in Europe could that differ from your milk?

Because the milk container really says otherwise.
Protein is the same in 100 ml but the whole version has significantly more fat in it.

I do not think they would lie about such facts.
The protein makes sence ( although it should be half the protein).
But according to the stats on my milk 1/2 a gallon of half half can never contain twice the fat of a full gallon of whole milk.
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Originally Posted by Koalala
In Momg there's this question that really confuses me.

Northernyogi :Was thinking of switching from whole milk to half and half. When I looked at the stats on both, it looked like I could get the same of everything with half the volume (1/2 gal of half and half vs.1 gal of whole milk). Your thoughts?

Rippetoe :You looked at the stats wrong half a gallon of half and half has twice the fat, one third the carbs, and less than half the protein than 1 gallon of milk, If you want less volume get evaporated milk.

How could this be true when I look at the stats whole milk has less protein than half half (halffull) per 100 ml and more fat.
According to nutritiondata.com, 1 cup (244 g) of whole milk has 146 cal, 8 g fat, and 8 g protein. 1 (fluid, not whipped) cup of heavy cream has 821 cal, 88 g fat, and only 5 g protein. In America, half and half is half milk, half cream.

So a cup of half and half would have 483 cal, 48 g fat, and 6.5 g protein. You're tremendously increasing fat and calories, but decreasing protein. You need protein to build muscle.

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Koalala is getting mixed up between half & half which is cream & whole milk mixed together.

And skimmed milk vs. whole milk.

Half & Half:

Half Fat (2%) milk:
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Yes this is true I am sorry
Skimmed milk is a good alternative I guess
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8. Originally Posted by Koalala
Skimmed milk is a good alternative I guess
Unfortunately, it is not. Whole milk for the win.

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Originally Posted by TomC
Unfortunately, it is not. Whole milk for the win.
More Fat same Protein does not look like a win to me.

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Then you need to get your head on straight. How much do you weigh?

Originally Posted by Koalala
More Fat same Protein does not look like a win to me.

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