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    Default 40+ increased risk of heart failure with high protein (Atkins) type diet

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    Atkins diet may cause heart failure, major new protein study finds

    They keep on publishing this stuff out of Europe and especially the UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Burnett View Post
    Atkins diet may cause heart failure, major new protein study finds

    They keep on publishing this stuff out of Europe and especially the UK

    Cohort study. Problem with this is that the protein intake is self reported which essentially tells us nothing. This was also an older cohort so the risk of h art failure is already high with advancing age. Then there is also the question of the other risk factors etc. Ultimately Atkins is not a very healthy diet in general but these data don’t prove any casual relationship and the variable of interest cannot reliably be measured.

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    I was annoyed that the news article doesn't have any link to the study, the thing they are making into news.

    I wonder why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl Schudt View Post
    I was annoyed that the news article doesn't have any link to the study, the thing they are making into news.

    I wonder why.
    Found it right here buddy

    Intake of Different Dietary Proteins and Risk of Heart Failure in Men | Circulation: Heart Failure

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    They found 81 incidents of heart failure in their lowest protein quartile of 610 people, and 81 incidents of heart failure in their highest protein quartile of 610 people. This is despite the fact that the highest quartile protein consumers also had 7% more history of family heart disease. They found no clear signal. You can't just throw everything into a multivariate analysis and read the tealeaves, as they do. We would all be much better if journals instituted the practice of having a critical third party write the statistical analysis section in their articles.

    It's almost needless to point out that this study had nothing to do with "Atkins," despite the Telegraph article. The journalist (Henry Bodkin) is the one to make that link.

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    Default That's not what they concluded

    This was an exercise in torturing data. Their conclusion was lukewarm, from the paper.

    CONCLUSIONS: In middle-aged men, higher protein intake was marginally associated with increased risk of HF.

    And,

    WHAT IS NEW?
    • Despite the increasing popularity of high-protein diets, the role of dietary protein in relation to heart failure risk has not been previously evaluated.
    • We observed that high total protein intake was marginally associated with increased risk of heart failure.
    • The associations with proteins from different sources were in accordance with the overall finding, although not all associations reached statistical significance.
    WHAT ARE THE CLINICAL IMPLICATIONS?
    • This study suggests that high protein intake may not be the optimal dietary strategy in the prevention of heart failure.

    Further, the number of observed heart failure incidents and rate at lowest amount of total protein was same as that for the highest protein intake.

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    What about the Keto diet, is it safe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlene Dukes View Post
    What about the Keto diet, is it safe?
    We really don't know because no one stays on it long enough to gather data on the chronic effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Santana View Post
    We really don't know because no one stays on it long enough to gather data on the chronic effects.
    Yes, I also notice that. Anyway, thanks for the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Santana View Post
    We really don't know because no one stays on it long enough to gather data on the chronic effects.
    That is at least partially true. Over time, my reading is that only the very devoted can extend a real keto diet. Most go through modification or abandonment. HOwever, my memory is that there are some relatively long term keto diet studies.

    It seems that keto diets are perhaps good for some people as a weight loss tool and possibly for other conditions .....and generally imiplemented on a temporary basis or included as dietary habit/practice in cycles.

    Journal Alzheimers Disease and Dementia just reported that diets low in BCAA's increase risk of dementia.
    Dementia, Alzheimer Disease Risk Increased With Lower Branched-Chain Amino Acid Levels - The Clinical Advisor

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