Adding high pulls?

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03-15-2018, 10:43 AM
Sdewitt10

Adding high pulls?

Hi All,

Newbie here and excited to join! I’m 30 and have ran the BS 5x5 many times over the years and recently decided to tweak it. The following is based on his “advanced” temperate.. switch to 3x3 and drop Wednesday SQ in weeks 5-9..

M/W/F-Heavy/light/medium
Squat
Deadlift
High pull
Flat BL
Clean and Press
Power snatch
Dips/PULL

Tuesday and Thursday
Ropes -4 sets of 4 exercise,30 seconds on and 10 rest per exercise
21’s/Skull crushers
Pec Fly-4 sets
Stair master or Rowing -31 minuets

As you can probably guess I worse myself out quick fast and in a hurry. So I’ll probably be back to going with SQ/Clean and Press/BP/Dips+Pull but feel like I may be missing out by leaving the other 3 (deads/snatch/high pulls).

My question is what if anything should I add? And do you see a big difference (cosmetic gains)regarding High pulls/snatch/ Clean and Press (where I don’t drop or squat)- given what I’m keeping? I’m planning on adding 1 and also have no qualms about replacing one of the exercises, but would really appreciate the advice!

Thanks!!
03-15-2018, 11:51 AM
Adam Skillin

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Originally Posted by Sdewitt10

Hi All,

Newbie here and excited to join! I’m 30 and have ran the BS 5x5 many times over the years

Hi, Sdewitt10. What's the BS 5x5? Do you mean Bill Starr's program? Have you ever run the Starting Strength Novice Linear Progression that we tend to advocate around here?
03-15-2018, 01:17 PM
Sdewitt10

Yes to the BS bring bill Starr
03-15-2018, 01:18 PM
Sdewitt10

And no to SS

Although I’d Perfer to stick with Bill Starr
03-15-2018, 01:46 PM
Adam Skillin

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Originally Posted by Sdewitt10

And no to SS

Although I’d Perfer to stick with Bill Starr

I can't readily find the details of the program you're asking about. Got a link? And what exactly is your question? Whether high pulls will give you good aesthetic results?
03-15-2018, 02:03 PM
Sdewitt10

Hey Adam, thanks for helping me!

Here’s the link:
Bill Starr - Glenn Pendlay 5x5 - Periodized Version, Dual Factor Theory

So I’ve seen another variation (which I can’t find) which has me benching/squatting/ Clean and pressing 3x per week.. that’s it

I’ve gone ahead and added dips and pull-ups at the end of each workout

I’m debating adding another exercise or 2 out of this pool (deadlifts/high pulls/ snatch) as I’m told I may be missing out on some physical benefits (ripped back and traps specifically) by not doing so.. but at the same time I don’t want to tax my body with redundant workouts
03-15-2018, 02:04 PM
Sdewitt10

I’m told my abs get worked with snatches and high pulls but wasn’t certain if Clean and Press did
03-15-2018, 02:06 PM
Sdewitt10

Just making sure I’m not missing. Out on athletic and cosmetic gains is all
03-15-2018, 02:10 PM
Adam Skillin

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Originally Posted by Sdewitt10

Just making sure I’m not missing. Out on athletic and cosmetic gains is all

Looks like you asked Rip a similar question in his Q&A...

https://startingstrength.com/resourc...ml#post1664950
03-17-2018, 11:43 AM
El Rojo

For bodybuilding purposes I see it as a variation of the power shrug. Something to change things up in regards to yoke training in order to overcome plateaus and whatnot. High pulls involve more muscle mass over a longer ROM and are therefore more taxing overall than shrugs so I wouldn't include them specifically for trap growth. I'd go for a DL variation as a heavy movement and/or the power shrug as a light movement focusing on the yoke.