Bigger leaner stronger

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11-04-2020, 06:26 PM
Lion Heart

Bigger leaner stronger

I followed Mike Matthew's BLS program for 2 years with great results.

Weight = 155lbs -- 245lbs
Squat 80kgx6 ---> 187.5kgx6
Incline Bench 70kgx6 ---> 125kgx6
Weighted Chins 5kgx6 ---> 65kgx6
OHP 50kgx6 ---> 90kgx6
Barbell Curls 20kg ---> 62.5kgx8

Then I cut for 8 months and got down to 170lbs with a 29" waist and minimal strength loss. I'm 5'10".

What program would you suggest I go on if my goals are aesthetics?

I'm happy with the amount of muscle I've put on but now I want to start bulking again to get even bigger.

I'll probably only drink half GOMAD this time as rate of muscle gainzzz are slowing to a halt.
11-05-2020, 06:41 AM
Hayden-William Courtland

You seem to have lost your way if you think Starting Strength offers aesthetics programs. That being said, get the blue book and do a full novice linear progression, you will get bigger and stronger.
11-05-2020, 08:13 AM
Johnsonville

After doing the nlp Andy baker has some power building programs you could always try out. There’s also the split routines in ppst that look easy to plug in some bro work to. Lastly, the Texas method with enough eating will make you huge, if that’s what you’re looking for.
11-05-2020, 09:25 AM
jamies33

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Originally Posted by Lion Heart

I followed Mike Matthew's BLS program for 2 years with great results.

Weight = 155lbs -- 245lbs
Squat 80kgx6 ---> 187.5kgx6
Incline Bench 70kgx6 ---> 125kgx6
Weighted Chins 5kgx6 ---> 65kgx6
OHP 50kgx6 ---> 90kgx6
Barbell Curls 20kg ---> 62.5kgx8

Then I cut for 8 months and got down to 170lbs with a 29" waist and minimal strength loss. I'm 5'10".

What program would you suggest I go on if my goals are aesthetics?

I'm happy with the amount of muscle I've put on but now I want to start bulking again to get even bigger.

I'll probably only drink half GOMAD this time as rate of muscle gainzzz are slowing to a halt.

I think you should eat 4500-5000 calories and novice linearly progress on starting strength for as long as possible, gain 20-30lbs.
11-05-2020, 01:39 PM
jfsully

You might look at some of Andy Baker's programs. He obviously is familiar with the SS model and developing programs to leverage it, but also seems to have some experience with physique work.
11-05-2020, 03:17 PM
Lion Heart

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Originally Posted by Hayden-William Courtland

You seem to have lost your way if you think Starting Strength offers aesthetics programs. That being said, get the blue book and do a full novice linear progression, you will get bigger and stronger.

With my numbers? Is it realistic to expect novice gains when I've been training for years and have a 90kg press?
11-05-2020, 09:20 PM
Gerald Boggs

I don't mean to be critical, but you've post over 900 times and yet you appear to have no understanding of Starting Strength.
11-06-2020, 10:52 AM
ReconquistaBarbell

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Originally Posted by Lion Heart

With my numbers? Is it realistic to expect novice gains when I've been training for years and have a 90kg press?

I think you have a point here... maybe gaining weight would help push your lifts up with a LP-like training, but you have a point...

Anyhow, since Andy Baker got brought up, you may find these articles interesting: Should You Squat/Bench/Deadlift If Hypertrophy Is the Goal? (maybe not) - Andy Baker The Evolution of The Training Split for Hypertrophy - Andy Baker
11-07-2020, 07:17 AM
Hayden-William Courtland

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Originally Posted by Lion Heart

With my numbers? Is it realistic to expect novice gains when I've been training for years and have a 90kg press?

Yes, many people who have never done the NLP as written in the blue book will see gains once they do it, even if they have been training for years. Also, even those who have done it and have a layoff can often get some gains by starting up with a NLP before jumping back in to more advanced programming.