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    Quote Originally Posted by mgilchrest View Post
    Provide to me your test scores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pawn View Post
    My only question is about recovery... the larger muscle groups should be able to recovery from an equivalent workload faster.

    These muscles have a much larger work capacity and move far more weight in a workout.
    Everything I have read has indicated that the smaller the mucle group, the FASTER it recovers....... Just things I have read throughout the years so take it with a grain of salt. But seems like others are agreeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgilchrest View Post
    Always will, and I excelled at them. They are a game.
    Triple Nine Card, please.

    The point is valid, but obfuscated with unnecessary words.
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    Similar ages have led to fanaticism

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    Quote Originally Posted by timelinex View Post
    Everything I have read has indicated that the smaller the mucle group, the FASTER it recovers....... Just things I have read throughout the years so take it with a grain of salt. But seems like others are agreeing.
    I'll add my anecdotal evidence to the large pool of anecdotal evidence... (again talking about 'not hurting' vs 'recovered')

    After OHP my upperbody 'feels' almost nothing after 15 seconds or so. I still need to rest for close to 10 minutes to hit my next set of 5.

    After my squat I need 3-4 minutes to not 'feel' anything, but I need 8 minutes to be ready for the next set.

    Now I can squat like this 3x per week, but I can't OHP over and over.

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    stop asking questions /s and slowly titrate upper body variables until lifts start going up consistently... after running standard LP

    upper body is all about titration

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pawn View Post
    I'll add my anecdotal evidence to the large pool of anecdotal evidence... (again talking about 'not hurting' vs 'recovered')

    After OHP my upperbody 'feels' almost nothing after 15 seconds or so. I still need to rest for close to 10 minutes to hit my next set of 5.

    After my squat I need 3-4 minutes to not 'feel' anything, but I need 8 minutes to be ready for the next set.

    Now I can squat like this 3x per week, but I can't OHP over and over.
    Need more data:

    Age, height, weight, squat and press

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgilchrest View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgilchrest View Post
    (which was three decades ago), +3
    Weird. I thought IQ was stable over time.

    Also: logic is gay.

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    Why can a 115lb woman squat heavy 4-5 times a week

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    One of my speculations were about total work as pointed out by Pawn. But to even match total tonnage (weight x reps x sets), upper body volume (sets x reps) needs to be significantly higher than lower body volume.

    Regarding recovery I recall dr Mike Israetel saying that the bigger the muscle, the more recovery it needs. I don't remember his explanation for this, if he provided any.

    PS. Found dr Israetels vid. He only stated the fact, didn't explain it. But in a 7 min video he really didn't have time for it. However he mentioned chest one of those large muscle groups that need more recovery. Granted the info he provided was in the context of bodybuilding style training.

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