Strength to bodybuilding program transition

[Mick1984]

Age 25 weight 185
Squat 140kg
Press 55kg
Bench 85kg
Row 81kg
Dead 167kg

These are my current numbers on madcows which I’ve been running for a few months. I’m looking to transition into a bodybuilding routine. Which it be better for me to move to a novice bodybuilding routine like all pros or into an intermediate bodybuilding routine? Obviously I’m currently using sets of 5 so the 8 - 12 rep range might take some time to adapt to.

[MBasic]

How tall are you?

Have your lifts stalled on MadCow?

Are those numbers you listed 3x5s, 1RMs, 5RMs?

[Mick1984]

5 ft 10
To be frank my squats have made no progress at all since ss. And those numbers are 5rms. Madcows just hasn’t worked for me. My bench and dead’s have seen some decent progress but all in all everything is stalling which is strange because I was making better progress on ss which is a harder program using the same diet, but having gone switched to what is essentially one set of heavy 5 a week I just cannot add weight onto the bar.

[MarinePMI]

Not enough volume...

[Eric Larousse]

Very odd that madcow would not work.

[Satch12879]

Not enough volume...

Not enough body weight at 5’-10”.

[Marenghi]

Whatever held you back ad Madcow - your question was for a BB program.

Any program will be ok that has a good exercise selection, volume and frequency (load is pretty simple and almost always spot on in templates). But you can do better than follow a cookie cutter program (which, due to more complex programming have a place for novices and intermediates in strength training): You try to find out a sufficient frequency and volume for each muscle (group) and go from there. If you stall, you have an easy flow chart: Are you tired in the respective muscles at the begin of the session? No? --> more volume/frequency. Yes? Check program first, only if theres no obvious improvement --> check for better recovery --> doesnt work --> reduce volume.

Very broad guidelines. For more detailed ones look for Eric Helms´programs and info by Menno Henselmans (bayesianbodybuilding.com). Evidence-based, practical, recommended.

[MBasic]

Not enough body weight at 5’-10”.

meh, I wouldn't get hung up on "body weight".

You really should be pointing out: Those 5RM lift numbers aren't all the hot to be frank, from a strength standpoint.
So yeah probably not enough "muscle" there right now.

[Mick1984]

meh, I wouldn't get hung up on "body weight".

You really should be pointing out: Those 5RM lift numbers aren't all the hot to be frank, from a strength standpoint.
So yeah probably not enough "muscle" there right now.

I get that, but nothing has really answered my question. Is it wise to go from an intermediate strength program to a novice bodybuilding program? That’s all I really need opinions on.

[Marenghi]

I did, look above: There is no fixed "novice" or "intermediate" BB program (yeah well, you could give programs names as you want...) and in general, its more effective to say goodbye for equal, fixed frequency or volume for all muscle groups. I also gave you ressources where to look for programming and general advice for evidence-based BB.