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    Hey Andy, Hey all!

    Thanks for you content and for your video regarding MMA/Grappling and Barbell Training.
    I would appreciate it, if you could answer three questions of mine:

    1. Frequency. In this vid you're talking about 3/4 days a week. I'm a hobbyist, who did grappling sports (judo/bjj) all his life and wants to incorporate some Barbell Training for injury prevention/variety/performance with 3 days of grappling. Would 2 days a week also work, i.e can I maintain my SSLP gains and make slow progress? (Like your "Training without a plan" article).

    2.) Power Cleans: At minute 18:20 and ongoing you are mentioning doing 15 Power Cleans at 70 % on a timer every 30 sec. But how would I progress in my cleans in this program? Can't stay on the 70 % from my SSLP forever. Would program a "Max Effort" Power Clean every other month work, so to see where I am?

    3.) Front Squat: Coming from SSLP (with no front squats), how would I program them? Start a little Front Squat LP inside my program?

    So, I would end with something like this:

    Week A:
    Squat /P Clean /Chins
    Bench / Chins / Dips
    Week B:
    Deadlift/ Front Squat / Chins
    OHP / Chins / Dips
    Week C:
    Paused Back Squats/ P Clean / Chins
    Bench / Chins / Dips
    Week D:
    Deadlift / Front Squat / Chins
    Push Press / Chins / Dips

    Maybe, would do another Deadlift Variation in Week D (Like Deficit Deadlift) and Bench Variation in Week C (like Close grip Bench).

    Thanks!

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    Okay, since I can't edit my post, here is the video from Andy Baker my questions are based on:
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    Quote Originally Posted by trumfnator View Post
    Hey Andy, Hey all!

    Thanks for you content and for your video regarding MMA/Grappling and Barbell Training.
    I would appreciate it, if you could answer three questions of mine:

    1. Frequency. In this vid you're talking about 3/4 days a week. I'm a hobbyist, who did grappling sports (judo/bjj) all his life and wants to incorporate some Barbell Training for injury prevention/variety/performance with 3 days of grappling. Would 2 days a week also work, i.e can I maintain my SSLP gains and make slow progress? (Like your "Training without a plan" article).

    2.) Power Cleans: At minute 18:20 and ongoing you are mentioning doing 15 Power Cleans at 70 % on a timer every 30 sec. But how would I progress in my cleans in this program? Can't stay on the 70 % from my SSLP forever. Would program a "Max Effort" Power Clean every other month work, so to see where I am?

    3.) Front Squat: Coming from SSLP (with no front squats), how would I program them? Start a little Front Squat LP inside my program?

    So, I would end with something like this:

    Week A:
    Squat /P Clean /Chins
    Bench / Chins / Dips
    Week B:
    Deadlift/ Front Squat / Chins
    OHP / Chins / Dips
    Week C:
    Paused Back Squats/ P Clean / Chins
    Bench / Chins / Dips
    Week D:
    Deadlift / Front Squat / Chins
    Push Press / Chins / Dips

    Maybe, would do another Deadlift Variation in Week D (Like Deficit Deadlift) and Bench Variation in Week C (like Close grip Bench).

    Thanks!
    Yes, you can train just 2x/week. I'd recommend a full body split. The 70% is just reference for a starting point. It might even need to be higher than that. You can obviously add weight. I didn't mean you stay at 70% forever. %'s are always just reference points not absolutes.

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    what would it look like as a 2 day full body Andy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Larousse View Post
    what would it look like as a 2 day full body Andy?
    Standard shit.....Chins, Squat, Press, Pull, not necessarily in that order.

    Very general set up might be

    Monday: Power Clean - timed singles, Squat, Press, Chins

    Thursday: Deadlift, Front Squat, Dips, Pull Ups.

    Something like that. Sets/reps/etc situation dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Baker (KSC) View Post
    Standard shit.....Chins, Squat, Press, Pull, not necessarily in that order.

    Very general set up might be

    Monday: Power Clean - timed singles, Squat, Press, Chins

    Thursday: Deadlift, Front Squat, Dips, Pull Ups.

    Something like that. Sets/reps/etc situation dependent.
    Thanks for your advice.
    one questions: Do I still do one "Max Effort"-exercise on a given day or would I (for your monday example) would do a Max Effort for Squat and Press?

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