Power clean vs Power snatch?

[starkarevarjedag]

In the book it says that you can replace the power clean with the power snatch.

What would be the difference if doing this? You move lower weights but over a longer range and perhaps faster.

Is it better for sports to move slightly heavier weights as in the clean?
Power for moderate weights is better than light weights?

[convergentsum]

Rip prefers the clean, because it's heavier and because the snatch is harder (more skill). However, some people who can't clean (flexibility, anthropometry) can snatch, so they have that option. The advice seems to be, try the clean first. If you can't do it, try the snatch.
There's also a place for snatching alongside the clean later on an HLM if you want to pull two olympic lift varients on light and medium day.

[Nicholas Rega]

Rip prefers the clean, because it's heavier and because the snatch is harder (more skill). However, some people who can't clean (flexibility, anthropometry) can snatch, so they have that option. The advice seems to be, try the clean first. If you can't do it, try the snatch.
There's also a place for snatching alongside the clean later on an HLM if you want to pull two olympic lift varients on light and medium day.

Bump.

Also, to answer your question concerning the range of motion, the barbell does travel over a longer distance in the snatch, but but you aren't actually producing any more force into it once you jump. You stop producing force against the bar in the same spot in the power clean too. The only range of motion in which you are producing force against the barbell that is longer in the power snatch, is the pull from the floor because you are essentially at a deficit as compared to the power clean, but this will not really be advantageous for you in any way since the weight will be too light, due to the fact that you will need to jump harder in order to get the bar overhead, and thus will have little carryover to your deadlift. The power clean, however, will have a better carryover to your deadlift since it uses heavier weights. (Note: the main purpose of the power clean and power snatch is to maintain explosiveness that may be lost while training the heavier lifts. The carryover to the deadlift is more of a secondary benefit.)

So all in all, the power snatch is sub-optimal.

[John Hanley]

explosiveness that may be lost while training the heavier lifts.

Have folks noticed that high-intensity, high-force barbell work corrupts ballistic motor programs?

[Dalton Clark]

the main purpose of the power clean and power snatch is to maintain explosiveness that may be lost while training the heavier lifts.

This is a terrible way of phrasing what occurs. Heavy barbell training doesn't cause someone to lose explosiveness.

[starkarevarjedag]

This is a terrible way of phrasing what occurs. Heavy barbell training doesn't cause someone to lose explosiveness.

How would you frase it then?

[Dalton Clark]

The power clean and power snatch improve the trainee's ability to generate force quickly. They allow someone who has increased their deadlift by 200 pounds to be able to display that increase in strength quickly. Nicholas's statement is phrased in such a way that suggests someone who has gotten stronger has somehow decreased their power production.

[John Hanley]

The power clean and power snatch improve the trainee's ability to generate force quickly.

In motor programs that aren't cleans and pulls?

[John Hanley]

In motor programs that aren't cleans and pulls?

The above should read: "In motor programs that aren't cleans and snatches?"

[poser]

I do and enjoy both the PC and PS. Lately, I’ve been deadlifting 2x a week and doing the PS os “Light” day pulling. I’ll roll back into doing PCs on Medium day pretty soon.

I find the PS to require more precision than the PC which could potentially have value in terms of the general application using your body athletically once the PC is mastered. however, the power snatch is noticeably slower to progress in weight than the PC.