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    Smile SQ OHP and jacked up PC

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    I feel confident overall about the SQ form

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGoHNoMLSKk set 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SgPaZn-XkU set 1

    OHP could use critiquing. I feel the bar's starting postion in relation to my shoulders could use improvement. Any cues would be helpful
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z_Ws-nmvdE set 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LynVXHD3I6c set 3 (didn't get the last one)

    PC is bad enough that a blind man can tell me to relearn it. I have already have my SS 2nd edition out to the PC and hopefully MOMG will help to when it comes. I just don't feel any pulling with my arms and can only figure that I am pulling back too much and not doing the second pull. Please help.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gtCCRbdmrU set 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYRXMPSn0ok set 5

    DL - my back breaks in the last rep but other then that I think it is good.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0smUTNAXgH4

    Feel like I need to shift to halted DL and rack pulls.

    Thank you much for the assistance

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    Squats look noice.

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    Press: I don't see anything the matter with the press other than they just look like they're getting fuckin' heavy.

    You're a strong guy and you could probably stand to try a more advanced technique than you're using. Rip has discussed getting stretch reflex from the abdominals via a little bit of layback. Think of yourself as the bow of a bow-and-arrow; when you string the bow, the wood "bows" in. Think of your body as a bow, and allow a little layback to happen, which will in effect stretch your abdominals, which you should nevertheless continue to squeeze as tightly as possible. The stretch-shortening cycle of the abs trying to stay tense while being pulled upon will propel the bar up as you begin the ascent. How much layback you can tolerate is up to you, as people's backs respond to different degrees of layback differently. Right now, you're not getting much if any layback at all to my eye.

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    Deadlifts: these are "textbook." Nothing wrong with your back extension whatsoever. I guy of your strength could tolerate quite a bit more loss of extension before I'd see any need to get worried. How much, of course, is entirely up to your judgment.

    -S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gottatri2lift View Post
    PC is bad enough that a blind man can tell me to relearn it. I have already have my SS 2nd edition out to the PC and hopefully MOMG will help to when it comes. I just don't feel any pulling with my arms and can only figure that I am pulling back too much and not doing the second pull. Please help.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gtCCRbdmrU set 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYRXMPSn0ok set 5
    There is no double knee bend in your power cleans. Re-watch the videos and keep an eye on this and see whether you agree.

    Then, look at this post:
    http://www.cathletics.com/forum/show...40&postcount=4

    You can skip reading all the mutual dick-sucking in that thread, though.

    -S.
    Last edited by nisora33; 01-28-2010 at 09:46 PM.

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    Thanks for the feedback Nisora33. Saturday I will be pressing and will try that stretch reflex, I am stoked as the weight is getting heavy and my goal is 225 (currently at 172). The feedback on the DL is great too, I have the idea that the lower back can't break. Silly b/c all the guys lifting much heavier weights do have some loss of extension.
    As for the PC I agree, and will be bringing the link you posted and SS to the gym to figure it out on Saturday.

    Thank you very much. This feedback really spurs me to continue without fear of fucking myself up. With no training partners and the 'trainers' at the gym either out of shape women or cute little chicks there is not much in the way of feedback.

    THANKS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gottatri2lift View Post
    With no training partners and the 'trainers' at the gym either out of shape women or cute little chicks there is not much in the way of feedback.
    Trainers, almost without exception, are as clueless as the people they train. It can suck to be on your own.

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    ah...

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    Your squats, presses, and deadlifts all look really solid. Very strong.

    I can honestly say that I have never seen anyone do a clean like that before. It's like a deadlift that doesn't stop at the waist. When you figure out how to do the clean, you are going to move some serious weight.

    Here's the deal with the clean - it is a jump with the barbell. I recommend getting into the hang position (knees slightly bent, arms straight, shoulders slightly in front of the bar. The bar should be in contact with the mid thigh here. This is the position you need to hit every time coming off of the floor. With straight arms, jump hard and fast. The barbell should accelerate and as you drive your elbows forward, drop under the bar and rack it on the shoulders. You have good flexibility and your rack position is good.

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    TomC thank you very much.
    I just brought my camera and tripod to the gym to analyze my PC form (or lack thereof), and am going to make it my sole focus in reading this week. I hope to get a video up at weeks end (Feb 4) with a textbook PC.

    This Tuesday I will work with the hang clean position like Nisora33 and you have posted.

    Thanks again!!!

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