Rogue Rip vs Do-wins

[Pho]

I'm in the market to look for a nice weightlifting shoe ever since I lost my chucks. I've narrowed it down to the two shoes but I have a problem.

I was about to get the dowins but I heard that the elevated heel could be problematic when doing deadlift.

So I considered getting the rip shoes. But unfortunately my size is out of stock and I have no idea when they will restock.

So should I just get the dowins or wait until the rip shoe comes back in stock.

[Squatson]

I got the Do-Wins about 3 weeks ago and I love them...I thought Chuck's were good enough, but not so. It's a lot easier to keep the knees in place and the heel helps you feel the hamstring bounce.

The deadlift setup is a little different, and it takes awhile to get used to. But I pulled a PR 5x355 yesterday in my Do-Wins no problem.

[hatmanii]

I've had the Rogue's for well over a year and love them. Can't comment on the Ripstyles.

I wear mine for all lifts and couldn't be happier. I didnt deadlift in them the first 6 months I had them, but once I found my "stroke" in them I couldn't imagine going back to my wrestling shoes. You very well could just deadlift in other shoes and wear the Rogues for everything else.

I'd buy the Do-wins over rips shoes for aesthetics alone, but it also helps that they are a great shoe and you couldn't really go wrong with either one IMO.

-Hat

[famendoza]

I'd get the Do-Win shoes that are currently in stock for your size. I have the VS athletics limited edition Royal blue shoes, with a 3.3 cm heel (midsole 2.8 cm, sole 0.5 cm). Unless the heel fucks up your mechanics for the deadlift such that you cannot get a flat back even after you've followed all the cues, the shoes are a net benefit for all of the other lifts on SS. FWIW I've never felt that my shoes prevented me from making increases in the deadlift that I couldn't attribute to:
- too aggressive loading
- not enough eating
- not enough sleeping (a biggie).

One thing I'd look for though are shoes with a good instep strap, that doesn't snap off.

[Scott_Robison]

So I considered getting the rip shoes. But unfortunately my size is out of stock and I have no idea when they will restock.

They've been on backorder for about 8 weeks. Last they told me, they expect to ship the next batch on Tuesday.

[Pho]

They've been on backorder for about 8 weeks. Last they told me, they expect to ship the next batch on Tuesday.

If that is the case, do you recommend the Rip shoes over the Do Wins?

[Scott_Robison]

If that is the case, do you recommend the Rip shoes over the Do Wins?

Can't really say, I've never squatted in either. I've just been waiting for Rip's.

[MEbigUsmall]

I've had the Rogue's for well over a year and love them. Can't comment on the Ripstyles.

I wear mine for all lifts and couldn't be happier. I didnt deadlift in them the first 6 months I had them, but once I found my "stroke" in them I couldn't imagine going back to my wrestling shoes. You very well could just deadlift in other shoes and wear the Rogues for everything else.

I'd buy the Do-wins over rips shoes for aesthetics alone, but it also helps that they are a great shoe and you couldn't really go wrong with either one IMO.

-Hat

I dont understand the mechanics that would make a heel harder to deadlift with? I am not experienced enough, but would the tilt forward make it easier to get a straight back since one doesn't have to stretch as much forward? I am confused?

[Sami]

With a heel, you're effectively making yourself taller. So that means you have to reach down a little more, and the ROM will be increased. The argument is that there will be a bit more quad involvement to help get the bar off the ground. But it will be an individual matter whether this extra quad involvement will have a net benefit over the increased ROM.

So some people might lift more with a heel, others more without.

[LondonTiger]

For my the problem was hipflexion... I would feel a lot of tirque on the lower back, when going below paralell.

With the WL shoes, I can go down on the same dept but do not feel a thing on my lower back.