Squatting: At knees or Hips first?

[msingh]

Have heard two conflicting views on this, which should break first?

[Greg C]

I think this is over-thinking it a bit. Why not just concentrate on the important things:
1) Lower back extended/Chest up
2) knees out/not past toes forward
3) depth

[Carnivroar]

Both at the same time.

[manisstrong]

I think this is over-thinking it a bit. Why not just concentrate on the important things:
2) knees out/not past toes forward

Just wondering, why is this important?

[msingh]

Too late, already experimented with knees first and it was a big fail. I usually do it simultaneously anyway just read some shit on the internet, perhaps knees first was the way to go. It wasnt. Waste of a workout.

[gzt]

Hips.

EDIT: It's not just the way Rip teaches it, every powerlifter I know says hips sit back first.

[msingh]

Well colowayo teaches knees first.

[Greg C]

Just wondering, why is this important?

Largely due to the number of people that screw it up and the impact it has on your knees long-term if you do.

[LudwigVan]

Hips first usually leads to knees moving forward at the bottom. Both at the same time, IMO.

[ColoWayno]

Well colowayo teaches knees first.

Yeah, the guy who is always asking, "why are my squats f'ed up?"

Knees should get into a fixed position first, though.