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    Age: 22
    Height: 6'
    Weight: 200

    PR Lifts:
    Squat: 345x1, 315x3
    Deadlift: 445x1
    Bench: 225x1
    Press: 140x5

    I have been reading the boards for a bit and decided I should get an account so I can post and start a training log to keep me accountable.

    I am currently working on rebuilding my squat form after some video analysis showed it was severely fucked up. In the process I decided I want to squat high bar as a change of pace.

    This weeks workouts:

    Tuesday:
    Squat:
    135x5
    185x5
    225x2
    255x1
    275x1 @8
    255x1
    225x1 (paused)
    225x2
    185x3

    3ct Pause Squat:
    155x3
    155x3
    155x3

    Deadlift:
    315x2
    365x1
    395xF (sonofabitch)
    365x1
    335x3
    335x3
    335x3
    335x2

    Thursday:
    Bench:
    175x1/2/3
    175x1/2/3
    175x1/2/3

    PBN:
    45x10
    65x10
    75x10
    80x6

    Kroc Rows:
    85x24

    DB Tricep Extensions:
    65x10
    65x10
    65x10

    Curls:
    70x6
    70x6
    70x6
    70x6

    Notes: I am currently training 2x a week as it is golf season and my main focus is on improving my golf game. I will pick up the lifting considerably come October when the weather becomes unfavorable for golf and my focus will be upping my numbers.

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    Squat:
    135x5
    185x3
    225x2
    245x1
    275x1 (not as good as last week, all the singles were a bit forward)
    245x1
    185x3

    Pause Squat:
    155x3
    155x3
    155x3

    Deadlift:
    315x2
    365x1 @8
    395x1 @8.5
    365x1x6 @8

    Back Extensions:
    x8
    x8
    x8
    x8

    Notes: Weird session. The squats never felt right from the beginning and the single at 275 was much harder than last week. My issue is that my bar path tends to be a bit forward or mid-foot....which completely fucks the mechanics of the lift out of the hole. I had been getting much better at having the bar track over mid-foot before today's session. Anyway, I'm going to quit screwing around with singles and get back to hitting a top set of 5 with clean technique, some back off sets to rebuild my form. I'm sure once I really hammer the form back down that I will be able to rocket past my old PR's and finally get the 4 plate squat.

    Deadlifts were awesome today. As I was warming up I remembered that I pull best when I get the bar tight to my shins then arch my lower back hard before pulling. I focused on this and all of the singles were like butter. I'm pleased to have discovered this, because for a long time I was cuing "chest up" when I would set my arch and it invariably led to the bar getting forward once it broke the floor. I had much more than 395 in me today, but I wanted to not go crazy as I plan to keep adding weight to the top single for weeks to come.

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    Bench:
    180x1/2/3
    180x1/2/3 @8.5
    180x1/2/3 @9

    Pause Bench:
    135x4
    135x4

    PBN:
    45x10
    65x10
    65x10

    Kroc Rows:
    85x26
    85x5 (strict form on these)
    85x5
    85x5

    DB Extensions:
    65x10
    65x10
    65x10

    Curls:
    70x6
    70x6
    70x6
    70x6

    Notes: Bench felt good today. My last warm up at 165 was slow, but all of the ladders had good pop. The Kroc Rows were fucking murderous, but they help build my back and really help my deadlift once I break the floor, so I will continue to keep pushing them.

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    Your ass drifts back coming out of the hole. Keep your chest up. It seems like you're trying to use low bar mechanics with a high bar squat. It's okay to let your knees come forward more with a high bar squat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Narvaez View Post
    Your ass drifts back coming out of the hole. Keep your chest up. It seems like you're trying to use low bar mechanics with a high bar squat. It's okay to let your knees come forward more with a high bar squat.
    Thanks for the input, Tom. I have always struggled with GM'ing the fuck out of everything I squat, and I am trying to fundamentally rebuild my movement pattern before making a run back into PR territory. I think I have made decent progress in my quest considering how awful my for was when I started, but I obviously still have some work to do. It's frustrating to struggle to squat warm up weights with solid technique. I think another month or two of really hammer my form and I will be able to start piling the plates back on.
    Last edited by Mosin Warrior; 07-10-2012 at 08:11 PM. Reason: adding detail

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    Kinda sounds like you're struggling against yourself, tbh. While this isn't SS, I'd recommend playing with a few different stances and finding something feels a bit more natural. I did lots of really weird things to find my stances for various lifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Narvaez View Post
    Kinda sounds like you're struggling against yourself, tbh. While this isn't SS, I'd recommend playing with a few different stances and finding something feels a bit more natural. I did lots of really weird things to find my stances for various lifts.
    I am struggling against myself a bit, but I think a lot of it is the fact that I have squatted incorrectly for so long that completely re-learning the movement simply takes time. I may try widening my stance a bit but other than that the way I am squatting now feels much more natural than when I was squatting with the bar lower on my back

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    Squat:
    135x5
    165x5 (bar was flying off my traps at the top)
    195x4 (fourth rep was ugly, racked it)
    195x4 (much better, but 5 would have been ugly...damnit)
    225x2
    255x1 (form felt solid, I stayed in my knees better)
    275x1 (felt a bit of GM, but the video shows it was not as bad as it felt)
    225x2

    Pause Squat:
    155x3
    155x3
    135x3 (thinking of putting pause squats first so I can work form out of the hole before doing regular squats)

    Deadlift:
    315x3
    370x1 @8.5
    405xF (grip fail at the knee, wish I could use chalk)
    370x1 @8.5
    370x1 @8.5
    370x1 @9 (start position was too high before arching and pulling)
    370x1 @8.5
    370x1 @8.5


    45 Degree Extensions:
    x8 (emphasis on relaxing and then arching hard)
    x8
    x8
    x8

    Farmers Walk:
    75x2 trips
    85x2 up and down trips

    Notes: Not a bad session today. The squat continues to irritate me. On the heavier singles, I can lower into the hole fine, but at transition I have trouble staying in my knees long enough on the drive up. I am thinking of pause squatting first so I can focus on the drive out of the hole before doing the regular movement.

    Deadlift was a bit frustrating. 405 just flew off the floor, but because I can't chalk up at my gym it started slipping out of my hand at the knee. I know I had quite a bit more in me if I had chalked up. I don't like straps for heavy pulls because I feel the alter my set up just enough to make everything a bit forward of the mid foot. Oh well, I will keep hitting the Kroc rows and I'll smash 405 without chalk.
    Last edited by Mosin Warrior; 07-16-2012 at 05:13 PM. Reason: added deadlift video

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    Bench:
    185x1/2/3
    185x1/2/2
    185x1 (form was all over the place so I called it here)

    Pause Bench:
    135x3
    145x3
    145x3
    145x3

    Seated PBN:
    45x10
    65x10
    75x10
    80x8
    75x8

    BB Row:
    95x10
    95x10
    115x10
    115x10
    115x10

    DB Extensions:
    65x10
    65x10
    65x10

    Curls:
    45x20
    45x15
    45x10

    Notes: Bench was awful today. Oh well, I'll repeat the weight and go from there.

    Didn't do Kroc Rows today because I tore my hands up pretty good yesterday deadlifting and doing farmers walks. I kept the BB rows very strict to hit the proper muscles. I'll do Kroc rows next week.

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    I have the itch to do a meet, but I want to get this squat thing ironed out before making the commitment.

    Details: I seriously want to compete because I think it will add loads of clarity to my lifting. Also, it doesn't hurt that the raw deadlift record for the 198's in the fed I would most likely compete in is something that I believe I can break pretty convincingly. The only issue is that I still have a lot of work to do with relearning the squat and I don't want to start pushing my squat before fully correcting my form problems. I know if I do a full meet before fully correcting my form, that my squat will be even harder to fix because I will be stronger and the poor motor pattern will just be further ingrained. All in all, I would like to get a meet under my belt anytime from February to May of 2013 which I think should give me time to fix my above mentioned problems.
    Last edited by Mosin Warrior; 07-23-2012 at 08:23 PM. Reason: adding detail.

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