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Was ~20y/o and 180lbs at the time. Still male and still 5'6" as far as I know.
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When did you switch to advanced novice?
My squat is at 240x5x3 and I'm about out of gas for 5 lb jumps each workout. At what weights did you move to advanced novice?
5'10"
195 lbs
Male
26 yoa (almost 27, in Feb)
Thanks.
Last edited by amsgator; 11-26-2014 at 11:15 PM. Reason: Age
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365x5x3
Was ~20y/o and 180lbs at the time. Still male and still 5'6" as far as I know.
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Geez I must be slacking...Originally Posted by Tom Narvaez
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I was no longer able to make session-by-session progress at about 23yo around 315lbs. In my 40s, at 225lbs.
225-275 seems to be most common for the typical guy of 25-40, usually nutrition holds them back. People just don't like to eat a heap of good food.
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I don't necessarily think you're slacking and I would also agree with Kyle's estimates for the average stall point in that particular demographic.
But you might be slacking.
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I work nights and 12 hr shifts so it's hard to eat like I'm supposed to at work. I'm pretty sure that's a good part of the problem. I've added about 145 lbs to my squat over the last 3 months or so, I just want to get as much out of this as I can before adding a light Wednesday.
At the same time I don't want to stall at weights and lose time that I could still be gaining if I did do a light Wednesday.
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When people stall, often their instinct is to add exercises, sets and reps - to go harder.
Usually, they need the reverse.
12hr shifts and less than ideal food - with that in mind, your progress has been good. Don't worry that it's slowing down. Progress is progress. If you could add 5lbs a week then in less than 12 months you'd be squatting 500lbs. I would expect a harder stall before then, though.
You can't change your work, which means you're unlikely to change your food and rest. So accept slower progress. Put in a light day.
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I like you, Kyle. This is the first place I've seen my squat progress not described as horrible. 36yo, 170lbs, and I hit a pretty good wall around 235. Ate my way up to 250 before resigning to smaller weekly progress.
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I switched according to recovery. I got to a point where I could tell I was still feeling pretty wiped out from Monday to Wednesday, and from Wednesday to Friday. Monday's workout got to be the only one where I felt somewhat recovered. So when I stalled after feeling that way for a few weeks, I deloaded and switched to advanced novice. Now, Monday's and Friday's squats feel great(recovery wise). Wednesday's squats, even light, still feel rough. I have progressed another 20 lbs past my stall weight on advanced novice so far, so it seems to be working well. I won't be upset when I have to switch to intermediate....buuuuuuut, the twice a week gains are addictive and I don't want to give them up.
However, for another point of reference in regards to your question, I switched to advanced novice after stalling on 285, 5'8", 43 y.o, 156lbs--->183 lbs.
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It comes from my experience working in a mainstream gym for years. Not everyone is a psycho-motivated 20yo male with a background in sports living at home whose parents still cook him dinner and wash his undies. That's why I wrote this.
Seriously: progress is progress. We should get the best and quickest progress we can given our circumstances. You shouldn't wuss out, but on the other hand, if you're a grownup with one or two old injuries, a full-time job and family and not much of a sporting background, you simply are not going to add weight to the bar every session until 315 or so. Ain't gonna happen. But the guys can get to 225-275, and the women to 135-185, and slow down from there - but progress is progress.
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