Cheese puff. I don't know how I missed your comment about the Fall Seminar. Sully and Chris Kurisco usually run the camps several times from fall through early spring. I'm sorry I missed you. The Seminars or Camps are great helps. Do you plan on attending the Fall Classic. It's been held in Chicago the last two years. If it is held there again I'm pulling a team from Greysteel together in order to attend. Sully should be there as well as a couple of other members of our group. I hope it's again in Chicago and I hope we get to meet.