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    BW 149.5kg
    Squat 45x5, 135x5, 225x5, 315x3, 350x5
    Bench 45x5, 95x5, 135x5, 155x1, 175x1, 195x5
    Deadlift 135x5, 225x5, 315x3, 350x5
    Press 45x5, 65x5, 85x5, 105x5, 125x1, 145x2, 135x5x2


    Everything worked well today. The overhead press was very close to failure, I don't think I will be able to do 142.5lb next time but let's see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marceloferreira View Post
    8-9-2021

    *** Goal
    Stay at least two months in the novice linear progression, doing the program exactly as told. I have the problem of changing program too much.
    Quote Originally Posted by marceloferreira View Post
    8-21-2021

    The workout was yesterday on Friday but I forget to post.
    I decided to back off a little and do only 1 set of each workout.
    My intention is a very restrictive diet, so keeping intensity high may be better because I will not build muscle anyway, just trying to keep some of it.
    Well, you certainly weren't wrong when you described your goal. But 12 calendar/5 workout days? You never even gave it a chance. Especially when, on 8-18-2021, just over a week later, you mention that losing weight is your priority, not the NLP.

    At 30, you still have the opportunity to enjoy being a young lifter and enjoying the gains achieved while being a young lifter. But that window is closing faster than you realize. You can use your 150kg body weight to your advantage if you actually follow the program as written. But the path to that is, in your situation, not to chase an overly restrictive diet or an arbitrary number on the scale. Keep track of your diet, making sure to not eat a surplus, perhaps cleaning it up in places, but don't go restrictive. Reset your weights and run your NLP as prescribed. Your lifts will go up significantly and while your scale won't budge too much, your clothes will fit significantly differently. Then you might notice that scale number starting to go down, but it won't be muscle that you are losing.

    Here's a good article describing what you're facing, just in case you haven't run across it — Starting Strength for the Obese Trainee. And Rip has written more about your situation in A Clarification with some guidance on how to make that body composition shift a bit easier.

    Best of all, Robert Santana is quite active over in the nutrition forum. He has helped many lifters in your similar situation and will no doubt be happy to guide you through this. But you'll have to be willing to actually do the program.

    Good luck, Marcelo!

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    Hi Bill,

    Thank you for the advice, which I think is good for someone smaller than me.
    However, there are other cases that should be considered which I think may fit me better.

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    Fair enough, Marcelo. Definitely spend some time over in the Nutrition forum; there are many over there that have been in similar situations. Perhaps the toughest part is internalizing the fact that it will take some time to undo what has been done over many, many years.

    I think the key is that everyone here wants you to succeed.

    Good luck!

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    W4D1

    BW 145.9kg
    Squat 45x5, 95x3, 135x3, 185x3, 225x3, 285x3, 315x3, 355x3, 335x3
    Bench 45x5, 95x5, 135x5, 155x1, 175x1, 200x3, 185x3
    Deadlift 135x5, 225x5, 315x3, 355x3, 405x1
    Press 45x5, 65x5, 95x3, 115x2, 140x3, 135x3


    Good work for a 3-day water fasting, surprised by how little performance was affected. Maybe I could have had one more rep on each lift.
    I read that you can lift well on keto (or fasting) because low reps (1-3) are mostly ATP and not glycolytic. However, the body probably would not be able to repair muscles and joints in a extended fasting.

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    W4D2

    BW 146.1kg
    Squat 45x5, 95x3, 135x3, 185x3, 225x3, 285x3, 315x3, 355x3x3
    Bench 45x5, 95x5, 135x5, 155x1, 175x1, 195x3, 195x0, 185x3x2
    Deadlift 135x5, 225x5, 315x3, 365x3x3

    Lifted after 3 days eating meat, not fasting anymore. I don't know why my bench press gone wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marceloferreira View Post
    W4D2

    BW 146.1kg
    Squat 45x5, 95x3, 135x3, 185x3, 225x3, 285x3, 315x3, 355x3x3
    Bench 45x5, 95x5, 135x5, 155x1, 175x1, 195x3, 195x0, 185x3x2
    Deadlift 135x5, 225x5, 315x3, 365x3x3

    Lifted after 3 days eating meat, not fasting anymore. I don't know why my bench press gone wrong.
    Marcelo - don't be alarmed, nor surprised, by this. In the previous week, you had 3 days of water fasting, followed by 3 days of eating only meat. Your body hasn't adapted to that sequence of fueling, and it's not really one where your smaller muscles are gong to be able to push through a strenuous workout, like your bench. You mentioned keto, but even that sequence of fueling doesn't fit the mold. You can expect your lifts to stall and/or regress.

    Background: I used to be an endurance athlete, sticking to a pretty strict keto diet, until I realized that I enjoyed wine and beer too much to be that strict with it. That "enjoyment" got me up to 115kg (still not in your situation, I understand). Once I started lifting in earnest with this program, I tried to stay primal (more lifestyle adaptable than keto—look at Mark Sisson at Mark's Daily Apple), which is still very low carb compared to a standard American diet. But I reached a point where each lift was stalling and I was completely beat after each workout, as well as the days after. A bit more research, plus discussion with Coach Santana, and I added a bit of carbs back into the diet, which has served me well. They give you the gas to get through that workout, and a little bit left over to recover.

    Santana has an excellent podcast, Weights and Plates, where he covers this a few different ways. I highly suggest giving the episodes a listen. He alternates between diet and lifting, so you can pick and choose which to listen to. But they are full of good information.

    Good luck. And keep at it!

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    Some personal problems got in the way of my training, but I am back again.
    At least the diet is still progressing.



    Workout 1

    BW 140.7kg
    Squat 45x5, 135x5, 225x5, 315x5
    Bench 45x5, 95x5, 145x5, 175x5
    Deadlift 45x5, 135x5, 225x5, 315x5
    Row 45x5, 135x5, 155x8
    Incline 45x5, 95x5, 135x8
    Last edited by marceloferreira; 09-16-2021 at 03:49 PM.

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    Workout 2

    BW 138.6kg
    Squat 45x5, 135x4, 225x3, 315x2, 325x5
    Bench 45x5, 95x4, 145x3, 180x5
    Deadlift 45x5, 135x4, 225x3, 315x2, 345x5
    Press 45x5, 95x4, 115x8
    Chinup -175x8

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    I was feeling too much energic today, broke the keto yesterday night to eat a 10 inch pizza. Back to dieting again.

    Workout 3

    BW 138.2kg
    Squat 45x5, 135x4, 225x3, 315x2, 335x3, 355x3
    Bench 45x5, 95x4, 145x3, 185x3, 195x3
    Deadlift 45x5, 135x4, 225x3, 315x2, 355x3, 375x3
    Row 45x5, 95x4, 145x3, 165x8
    Incline 45x5, 95x4, 145x5
    Chinup -160x8
    Press 45x5, 95x4, 105x5, 45x2, 95x1, 125x5
    Last edited by marceloferreira; 09-20-2021 at 07:57 PM.

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