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    After I posted about a soreness issue and the doctor's assessment in a previous topic (http://startingstrength.com/resource...ad.php?t=18327) I was recommended to get video of my squat and deadlift to be sure my problem wasn't caused by poor form. I deloaded my squat and deadlift by ~10% and did these workouts. Squats were 165lbs and my deadlift was the same, (but the warm up set was only 135lbs). Also, for my first squat video, I somehow have the left side 2.5lbs heavier. Dumb mistake, I was nervous trying to film lol.

    Squat Back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZDgRKHbIx8
    Squat Back 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pea8-rUeaMo
    Squat Side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XuPpK6vVgs
    Deadlift Back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-pFZAemNBU
    Deadlift Side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FH0aIKbfws

    Thoughts?

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    For the squat:

    1) Your grip is too wide.
    2) You're not hitting parallel.
    3) Your knees are sliding forwards for the entire descent.

    #3 is caused because you're over-emphasizing the "sit back" cue. Your knees need to do all of their forward travel within the first third of the movement. This is most likely what's causing your hamstring pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVC View Post
    For the squat:

    1) Your grip is too wide.
    2) You're not hitting parallel.
    3) Your knees are sliding forwards for the entire descent.

    #3 is caused because you're over-emphasizing the "sit back" cue. Your knees need to do all of their forward travel within the first third of the movement. This is most likely what's causing your hamstring pain.
    1) I'll fix my grip. Could this possibly explain why my right shoulder is acting up?
    2) ...are you sure, I feel like when I look at it I am hitting parallel. Not smashing through it by leaps and bounds, but hitting it.
    3) Is the issue that I break at the hips first, then the knees? Should I break at the knees first, and then the hips (or so both simultaneously) to avoid kicking my knees forward after beginning to sit back?

    I always thought the hips should be the first think to move, but your advice makes me think that the knees should be put into position first and foremost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subsistence View Post
    1) I'll fix my grip. Could this possibly explain why my right shoulder is acting up?
    2) ...are you sure, I feel like when I look at it I am hitting parallel. Not smashing through it by leaps and bounds, but hitting it.
    3) Is the issue that I break at the hips first, then the knees? Should I break at the knees first, and then the hips (or so both simultaneously) to avoid kicking my knees forward after beginning to sit back?

    I always thought the hips should be the first think to move, but your advice makes me think that the knees should be put into position first and foremost?
    1) Probably
    2) For some reps you're at parallel, and for some you're above parallel. You want to be slightly below parallel.
    3) The issue is that you're shoving your ass back WAY too much, which is what's making your knees slide forwards and it's also probably preventing you from getting below parallel. Break knees and hips at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVC View Post
    1) Probably
    2) For some reps you're at parallel, and for some you're above parallel. You want to be slightly below parallel.
    3) The issue is that you're shoving your ass back WAY too much, which is what's making your knees slide forwards and it's also probably preventing you from getting below parallel. Break knees and hips at the same time.
    Okay, I'll keep that in mind, thank you. Any thoughts on the DL?

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    Slow down.

    Break at the hips and knees at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnivroar View Post
    Slow down.

    Break at the hips and knees at the same time.
    I generally thought that lifting as fast as possible was the correct was to lift for strength training? I mean, not so fast that form is compromised, but the speed itself I don't think is the issue with my form...

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    I'm confused about what you mean when you say him putting his hips to far back is making his knees slide forward?

    shoes might help. I just bought my first pair and it seems like it makes it much easier to bend for me.

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    Anyone else have any tips about anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subsistence View Post
    Anyone else have any tips about anything?
    Work on what we told you. There's lots of good advice here.

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