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    Hi,

    Hopefully clean and jerks are covered here too, here's 140kg:

    I've been applying Rippetoe's tendinopathy protocol for tennis/golfer's elbow to my quadriceps tendon using front squats and it has been working well. Still have pain, but can consistently tolerate more and more. Since my knee has been feeling better I've been clean and jerking. Clean feels good. Jerk feels awful. It feels unstable, and my lockout is weak. The weak lockout already shows at 100kg. From what I've seen jerk technique is very variable between lifters and I'm not sure where to go from here. Any suggestions? Do you guys have a good recommendations for an olympic weightlifting text? I took a look at Everett's book but wasn't impressed. I was also thinking about running the olympic lifting version of TM from PPST3, but I don't think my technique is there yet.

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    Clean looks very good. I teach a different approach to the jerk than the "dip and drive" version you're using here. Visualize the bar as a "whippy" rod that bends down at the ends at the bottom of the dip and springs up after the rebound. Then visualize the jerk as a bounce followed by a fast press that pushes you down under the bar as you split. If you hit the bottom of your jerk dip as a fast bounce instead of as a place to push up from, it makes the jerk twice as fast and explosive.

    I know of no good Olympic weightlifting texts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    I know of no good Olympic weightlifting texts.
    write the weightlifting book Mark.

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    Is this a good example of a bounce? (see time = 1:10):

    I think I need some coaching. If I came to WF would you help me out? Thanks.

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    Yes, that the jerk I teach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Yes, that the jerk I teach.
    Don't you think that might not be so teachable though?
    Inherent RFD ability, tendon elasticity, genetics, etc might play into that quite a bit.
    Like telling someone to just jump higher?

    While I'll will say many people (esp. beginners) dip way too deep in the jerk.

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    Amazing, Fulcrum. I just told you I teach it. Am I lying?

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    Tried the bounce today at the end of my strength workout:

    I like it. I noticed that my feet after the jerk recovery are further back than where they started at the initiation of the jerk. What is going wrong?

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    I need to see more than one rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Amazing, Fulcrum. I just told you I teach it. Am I lying?
    No, you are not lying.
    You teach a dip on the shallower side of things, and use the bounce cue to make that happen.
    Sure.

    Just I think the OP was taking way too large of dip in the first video.
    So cueing "bounce" seemed to help, seeing the 2nd video. So as always, you are right.
    But I wouldn't call that a 'bounce jerk' technique.

    Akkeav does an obvious illegal double bounce there by the way.

    Write the book, Rip.

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