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    I'm just about to start another round of SS after two weeks off and looking for some advice around Squat & Dead management.

    The last round, circa 3 months, went well. Lifts ended as follows:

    Squat 3 x 5 @ 150kg
    Bench 3 x 5 @ 90kg (shoulder impingement, which sucked)
    Dead 1 x 5 @ 140kg

    I found that squats were inhibiting my deads at the end of the session. I was taking around 8 - 9 min rest between squat sets at the time. I'm keen to avoid this moving forward. How have others overcome this in the past?

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    Move the Deads to another day.
    m - SQ/Bench
    w- Dl/ light SQ
    Fri SQ/Bench/Press

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    Grow a pair

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    What were your initial numbers? Did you gain weight over the course of the past ~3 months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Coyne View Post
    What were your initial numbers? Did you gain weight over the course of the past ~3 months?
    Yea, gained approx 2.5 kg for the 3 months. The the wisdom in the repetition of "eat more" is beginning to become abundantly clear.

    Initial numbers were:

    Squat 3x5 @ 90
    Bench 3 x 5 @ 70
    Dead 1x5 @ 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Love View Post
    Yea, gained approx 2.5 kg for the 3 months. The the wisdom in the repetition of "eat more" is beginning to become abundantly clear.

    Initial numbers were:

    Squat 3x5 @ 90
    Bench 3 x 5 @ 70
    Dead 1x5 @ 100
    That's solid progress for as little weight as you gained. Are you alternating the bench press with the press, and did you ever introduce power cleans and chins into the program?

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    Rule #1 - Deadlift

    Rule #2 - Never Let Squats Interfere With Rule #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnip View Post
    Move the Deads to another day.
    m - SQ/Bench
    w- Dl/ light SQ
    Fri SQ/Bench/Press
    I did something with a new lifter sort of like this, but modified it a little for recovery reasons. She squatted 2x per week and deadlifted 1x per week. We started with 5# jumps on squats (so going up 10# per week) and deadlift jumped 10# per session (also 10# per week). The deadlift actually outpaced the squat, even though we were only doing it 1x per week. In a short time, she is now squatting 175 for 3 sets of 5 and pulling 195 next week for 3 sets of 5. So it is slower, but still pretty aggressive for an older female lifter.

    So the plan is:
    M- Squat 3x5/Bench 3x5
    W- DL 3x5/OHP 3x5
    F- Squat 3x5/Bench 3x5

    We don't do the A/B workouts, so every week looks the same. I imagine a larger guy could take even bigger jumps at the start on something like this. This is also more deadlifting than SS, which only has 1 set of 5 each session.

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    Jordan did a good podcast on mods to the SS LP, in which I think he commented on this sort of issue. He suggested (iirc) deadlifting first and putting squats last in the session.

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    I moved heavy DLs to my light squat day which worked well as I maxed out my squat at the tail end of advanced novice (medium days, top sets, etc.). I am not an aspiring competitive lifter so I don't care how well I DL after a heavy squat.

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