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Do Crossfitters learn how to coach the big lifts?
The question for those who know Crossfit instructors or know how they get their certification. What's the likelihood they would be able to coach me on the squat, deadlifts, press, bench press, power clean?
Background:
Currently I train at commercial gym in Hamburg, Germany (Fitnessland Hammerbrook). They are cheap and have reasonable opening hours, but they have only one power rack and only hex plates, which is a bummer for the deadlifts and is really annoying me a lot.
Therefore I'm thinking about switching to this Crossfit Box in the neighborhood, where they have round bumper plates. They offer me a so called "on ramp" deal whereby I would pay 120€ for 6 coaching sessions. After that I would sign up for the open gym for monthly fee of 55€, since I don't have any interest on Crossfit but I'm just looking for a place where I can deadlift without the hex plates hitting my shins when they unevenly land on the platform.
Since there are no SSC coaches anywhere near me, and SSOC is substantially more expensive than 120€ I'm wondering whether I should give it a try or if I will be wasting my money on the on ramp coaching.
Any comments are appreciated.
Personal stats all in kg:
BW: 80
Squat: 127.5
DL: 135
BP: 67.5
Press: 47.5
PC: 55
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Hi,
please remember this: you can only be trained by one coach at a time.
You can sign for a XFit coach, or you can stick with self-learning and form checks here. What I think should be avoided is signing for a XFit coach, then post on the Technique section for a form check, only to be told that there is a fundamental difference between what they told you there and what people tell you here.
IPB
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They do the squat, press, deadlift, and medball "clean"/snatch in the cert weekend cpurse. But not to the SS standard at all, so it's pretty risky.
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Its highly dependent on the coach, who certified him, and how he learned.
I would maybe just see if you can sit in on a strength class/session once to see how the coach interacts w/ the other trainees.
. . . and see how good or bad other trainees squat/deadlift etc.
. . . all this before committing money.
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edit: you might be screwed too
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Your chances are not good that they'll coach the SS method.
I think the videos of the main lifts on this website are pretty good. Combined with reading the book, re-reading the book, recording your lifts and posting form checks, reading all the free material on these forums, and re-watching the videos and re-reading the book again, you could do pretty well for yourself.
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Weekend CertificationOriginally Posted by ChasingCurls69
This is one of the many problem with Cross Fit. Metaphorically speaking, individual go from knowing a little to being a "Training Guru" in a two day weekend.
Secondly, Cross Fit's training program is geared more toward General Conditioning, "Metabolic Training". Cross Fitters are essentially are...
"A Jack of All Trades, Master of None
They have a vague knowledge of most training method but lack and never will have the expertise of knowledge of someone who specializes in a certain area.
That is also true of many other organizations. They provide you a overview but never are able to drill down and teach the fine points; "The devil is in the details".
Contra Indicated Training Methods
They believe and prescribe training program the counter the training objective/goal. They indoctrinated with inappropriate training protocols. It a house of card that they continue to build on. The outcome is more injuries and methods that decrease performance in certain areas rather than increase it.
The lack of education of the majority of Cross Fit instructors combined with the "Gung Ho" mentality of "Keep pushing/pulling until you pass out" equates to pouring gas on a fire, it is definitely going to light you up.
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You best choice would be to find and Olympic Lifting Coach to learn Weightlifting Movements and increase Power and Limit Strength/
A Power Lifting Coach would be your best choice in learning how to increase your Limit Strength and learn the Powerlifts.
if those choices are not available the next best come to the recommendation of...
MBasic
As he basically stated, you are hiring you are hiring an employee to help you. You need to interview him/her, obtain references and "sit in on a strength class...see how the coach interacts...etc.
Kenny Croxdale
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Interestingly enough, tom and I did a seminar at Crossfit HH in Hamburg, Germany. Try and get in touch with Elli Hachman. She should be able to help you
vegetableboy
That's a pretty reasonable squat isn't it lol?
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Hey Jordan, I know about Crossfit HH. They are bit too far north for me and I wanted to avoid long conmutes (>40 minutes). At the end I decided to go to Elbgym, which is nice and centric. They have 5 power racks and Eleiko bars/plates. Deadlifting today was a different pleasure. They offered some "planning", but I just want to stick to the SSNLP, so I will respectfully decline.
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