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    I'm well over 105kg and my hands are not big enough to use a hook grip. Happily my grip strength does not limit my powerclean by a long shot.

    While my hands are small they aren't dramatically so and I don't have the ability to do a good hook grip with a 1 1/8 bar. This leads me to believe you are talking out of your ass.

    Platus do you have any links to the drills? I'd appreciate any help on the 3rd pull I can find.
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    You can believe whatever the fuck you want, Robert.

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    makes me wonder if you are doing the hook grip correctly.

    Rip says that the snap generated on a properly performed power clean is such that no other grip is an option.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertFontaine View Post
    I'm well over 105kg and my hands are not big enough to use a hook grip.

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    Start out just practicing the rack position every day. It is going to be uncomfortable at first, but eventually it will come.

    You can practice the top portion of the clean with the bar only until you get flexible. It shouldn't take more than a week or two if you are dilligent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misspelledgeoff View Post
    makes me wonder if you are doing the hook grip correctly.

    Rip says that the snap generated on a properly performed power clean is such that no other grip is an option.
    I have just returned to PCs after having sprained/strained a ligament in my thumb about 3 weeks ago. I could still perform them fine with a regular overhand grip but I chose to leave them out because I could tell that my snap at the top was so much slower with the overhand grip. I did not want to risk prgramming a slow anything into my PC. Speed is life.

    Robert F- don't sell yourself short on the hook grip. It feels wrong at first, I agree. Find an experienced weightlitfter to talk you through it. I took a class from a guy in the OBX and the first day that I was shown the hook grip I PC'd 25 more pounds than I ever had before and then I proceeded to do it another 15 times after that. I haven't thought through the mechanics of it but I KNOW I'm faster with a hook...and faster=more racks at heavier weights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webbie View Post
    I have just returned to PCs after having sprained/strained a ligament in my thumb about 3 weeks ago. I could still perform them fine with a regular overhand grip but I chose to leave them out because I could tell that my snap at the top was so much slower with the overhand grip. I did not want to risk prgramming a slow anything into my PC. Speed is life.

    Robert F- don't sell yourself short on the hook grip. It feels wrong at first, I agree. Find an experienced weightlitfter to talk you through it. I took a class from a guy in the OBX and the first day that I was shown the hook grip I PC'd 25 more pounds than I ever had before and then I proceeded to do it another 15 times after that. I haven't thought through the mechanics of it but I KNOW I'm faster with a hook...and faster=more racks at heavier weights.
    I'm not selling myself short. I'd really like to do a decent hook grip but I can't reach that far on my home or gym bars. I can only get my middle fingertip over my thumbnail. I'm not sure how much a 28mm bar would help over a 30mm bar but a fingertip on top of the thumbnail doesn't give me a secure hook grip.

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    i hook grip with the tip of my middle finger over my thumbnail. how else would you hook grip?

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertFontaine View Post
    I'm not selling myself short. I'd really like to do a decent hook grip but I can't reach that far on my home or gym bars. I can only get my middle fingertip over my thumbnail. I'm not sure how much a 28mm bar would help over a 30mm bar but a fingertip on top of the thumbnail doesn't give me a secure hook grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misspelledgeoff View Post
    i hook grip with the tip of my middle finger over my thumbnail. how else would you hook grip?
    Me too.

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    hook grip is not really a 'grip' per se. when i do it i am not actively grasping the bar at all. it's more like i let the bar hang in my hands. the weight of the barbell 'locks' the grip through friction between the middle finger pad and the thumb nail. you can literally relax your hand completely with the barbell hanging in your hands no problem.

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    Let's take a look at how a really good weightlifter does it.... @ 1:31 there is a close up of the grip:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDnXB6yZ7hI

    It looks like smaller hands might require tape and chalk but I doubt your hands are smaller than the weightlifter in this video.

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