Progress update and power cleans

[Martin Shenfield]

But about the lighter deadlift version that you mention i never tried because i don't know what is better: BB Rows or Light DLs

I said light deadlifts because in 2020 Rip said in another thread that light deadlifts at 80% were the second best option behind power cleans.

His opinion may have changed since then and my opinion will change when I find that out.

[Adriano Alves]

If you use open loop straps (the kind recommended for the deadlift) then releasing the grip releases the straps. The force on the wrist won't be any greater than when it's actually transduced through the hands. Olympic lifters do this all the time and manage to keep their hands on their body, more or less.

However, I only said this on the chance that his issue was being physically unable to grip the bar. If you can't bend your wrists back (and your forearms are too long to get the bar to your chest) this indeed is going to present an issue that straps won't fix.

The snatch doesn't require that much forward clearance: the bar moves (mostly) straight up and down, just like the clean. You can do it INSIDE the rack, if you really want to. Should make for some effective cueing as well.

I suppose it is possible you can't actually get into the overhead squat position, but since you can squat, that seems unlikely.

So yeah, give it a shot. Just use the empty bar at first to see if you can get in all the relevant positions. Don't be afraid of banging into the rack: it probably won't happen.

We're hammering this because the Olympic lifts really are the best pulls. If you really can't do this barbell rows or chins can be substituted but they are really second best. I find light deadlifts to be even less effective than either of those, but you could give them a shot if you really want: they work for some people.

Thanks guys!! I forgot to mention the others in answers while i tiping, but i think you guys understand all.

Thank you everyone for being so helpful!

[Jason Donaldson]

If you use open loop straps (the kind recommended for the deadlift) then releasing the grip releases the straps. The force on the wrist won't be any greater than when it's actually transduced through the hands. Olympic lifters do this all the time and manage to keep their hands on their body, more or less.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks. I seem to recall hearing that there's at least one of the lifts that should never be strapped, to avoid catastrophic injury - is that the snatch, then?

[Mark Rippetoe]

Ah, gotcha. Thanks. I seem to recall hearing that there's at least one of the lifts that should never be strapped, to avoid catastrophic injury - is that the snatch, then?

You can strap your snatches safely, but strapping a clean (racked on the shoulders) puts too much pressure on your flexed wrists. Scaphoid fractures happen this way all the time.

[Jason Donaldson]

You can strap your snatches safely, but strapping a clean (racked on the shoulders) puts too much pressure on your flexed wrists. Scaphoid fractures happen this way all the time.

That must be what I was thinking of. Thanks, Rip.

Wrists are extended in the rack, though, right?

[Maybach]

You can strap your snatches safely, but strapping a clean (racked on the shoulders) puts too much pressure on your flexed wrists. Scaphoid fractures happen this way all the time.

Good to know, I stand corrected.