Age 42 - Starting Strength

[OZ-USF-UFGator]

Fact- Testosterone is a hormone
Fact - TRT has the exact same benefits as taking black market testosterone
Fact - TRT has the exact same potential side effects as taking black market testosterone
This isn't an exercise in speciousness or a non sequitur; this is reason.
Black market T and Medically prescribed T have the same efficacy, regardless of the source, the body doesn't give a fuck where it came from. The only differences are purity and dose. Make no mistake about it though, taking TRT has all of the potential negatives as black market T and all it takes to prove this is to read the warning provided by the manufacturer.
Suggesting someone investigate taking T for the sole purpose of lifting more weight is what you did, coach. And when called out, your reaction was to pillory, and cast ad hominem aspersions. Go figure

[Mark Rippetoe]

No sir, you are a stupid motherfucker for 2 reasons. First, he's 42, and 42 year old guys benefit from taking testosterone for lots of reasons other than their lifting. Second, I didn't suggest testosterone for his lifting -- I suggested it because he is 42. Third, you are a stupid motherfucker if you think that being an old guy hasn't got side effects too, and the test relieves some of them. Not enough, but some. No one has suggested "black-market" sources to the OP, except you.

I don't appreciate self-righteous pomposity on my board. Go post at USAPL.

[rashid29]

Fact- Testosterone is a hormone
Fact - TRT has the exact same benefits as taking black market testosterone
Fact - TRT has the exact same potential side effects as taking black market testosterone
This isn't an exercise in speciousness or a non sequitur; this is reason.
Black market T and Medically prescribed T have the same efficacy, regardless of the source, the body doesn't give a fuck where it came from. The only differences are purity and dose. Make no mistake about it though, taking TRT has all of the potential negatives as black market T and all it takes to prove this is to read the warning provided by the manufacturer.
Suggesting someone investigate taking T for the sole purpose of lifting more weight is what you did, coach. And when called out, your reaction was to pillory, and cast ad hominem aspersions. Go figure

I think what you are overlooking is that nobody is telling this dude to juice up his testosterone to insane levels above the normal range. At 42 his testosterone levels are probably pretty low and supplementing will put him at the higher end of normal. This shouldn't have many negative consequences because it is not that drastic of an increase.

[konkoba98]

It's pretty funny that everyone jumps on this guy for saying something contrary to Rip but comments comparing TRT to eating an egg get nothing? Seriously? Like Rip said, he should INVESTIGATE it.

[Mark Rippetoe]

Comments comparing it to eating an egg were Humor. "Humour" for the Brits and Wal. Not that funny, but an attempt. OZ is posting about shit he knows nothing about, on the basis of his assessment of the Morality of the situation.

[konkoba98]

Maybe so, but I'm guessing several people will soon be thinking, "oh shit, what is the difference between consuming cholesterol in eggs and TRT? Maybe I should refer to a 90min movie by Mark Bell's brother to find the answer."

I never get British 'humour' though. Never.

[Mark Rippetoe]

You never get MY humour. Culican and quikky are not British.

[konkoba98]

I would agree with that. I'll try to work on it.

[Aleksandr28]

The biggest difference between "black market" T and getting it from your doctor would seem to be that the latter has medical supervision, while the former has none but the user himself.

That's a rant for another time.

[Dave Longley]

I'm 34. What do I need to take to make my cock longer, thicker and harder? Testosterone or eggs?

I just rubbed my dick in some egg yolk, but all that did was cause me tremendous pain.

Stupid fucking electric whisks. Nice omelette though.

On a more serious note (although, getting my genitals caught in a whisk is pretty serious) what is the issue with people supplementing Testosterone? By that I mean, why wouldn't we want people to perform better, in all areas of life and not just lifting? We're at a point in history where we don't have to abide by the usual process of ageing and can enjoy a better quality of life by supplementing that which we lose via time.

The term "performance enhancing" has gained negative connotations in relation to physical endeavour, but in other walks of life, performance enhancement is a goal. Some engineering genius made my electric whisk super fast, now my foreskin is 3 feet long.