COVID19 Factors We Should Consider/Current Events

[Steve Cox]

I live in Virginia and there is no license to open carry, only concealed and while that offends me, is still pretty easy. Take a evening gun safety class and visit your county office.

Here in Missouri, we require no license for either open or concealed carry, unless you want to be able to carry in certain of the premises where weapons are prohibited, in which case the concealed carry class and CCW license will allow you to carry. I couldn't stand living in a state where a license for ownership is required, or those where you have to get permission just to transport back and forth to the shooting range or such nonsense. Only issue here is trying to find ammo just like everyone else.

[MartyFox1]

Nobody with any sense open-carries. Makes people nervous, and shows the bad guys who to shoot first.

It makes perfect sense on your own property. Those who know you don’t get nervous, and those who don’t can get the hell away from your property.

[Robin UK]

How about food, clothing, heat, water, and malt whisky? You have listed 3 commodities that other people have to produce for you as examples of freedom. Do you believe that you have a "right" to other people's production?



I agree.



Do you believe that circumcision is mandatory in the US? If your parents listened to the doctor and had you circumcised at birth, your problem is with them, not the county hospital.



This is such bullshit. Again, do you believe that you have a "right" to other people's production/wealth/labor/time?



It is exactly the point. There are many things you can do to keep from dying of both COVID and murder -- and car wrecks, falling off of buildings, drowning, and getting burned alive. If you are a passive participator in this little adventure, these scary numbers might apply. But that is a choice you make. I'm not going to Southside Chicago, I don't own a boat, and I do carry a gun (for reasons besides not being murdered). Everybody dies, so the things you do before that happens should be important to you. Hiding safely under your kitchen table in the safest place in the world may well be your decision. Have fun with that.



That's pretty good advice.



Okay, Robin. You're the real man in the room. But the next abortion or steroids (yes, we don't talk about that either) reference gets you ushered out. I'd rather this not happen.

Why don’t you want to talk about the “a” word?

[Mark E. Hurling]

Best of luck, Mark. You are not alone. I'm afraid very few can/will take on this fight for freedom.

For those who have no intention of ringing the bell, here's what to expect:
The “Unvaccinated” Question

Read this^

Then, consider what the Press Secretary just said:

Vaccine Passport


History repeats: IBM and the Holocaust

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Comic Relief: MD Shares his protection against Covid

I'm visualizing Hurling teaching Tai Chi in the park while the class uses ^this^ solution. We'll have to see how far this absurdity goes.

While I don't consider my getting the shots having rung the bell and leaving some elite group, I understand that others have strong convictions that I don't agree with in this instance. Smells too much like anti-vaxxing to me. Moving on.

The IBM and Holocaust link struck me as funny in it's own way. I had already determined to put a yellow star on my shot card and have it laminated in the event I am asked to present it as proof of vaccination. Hence doing my best to shame some vax nazi hauptsturmführer who challenges me about it.

As for the MD link, uhh, no. In fact, I intend to poll my classes and anyone who doesn't want to wear a mask is welcome not to. I won't be.

[Mark Rippetoe]

Why don’t you want to talk about the “a” word?

I guess you didn't believe me. You're now a troll. Sorry.

[George Christiansen]

Seriously. Would love to crunch some numbers. Take Chicago, LA, NYC out of the numbers. Or compare Red State Blue state statistics.

It's been done numerous times.

Basically the US is Finland without gangbangers and suicides by gun.

But if it makes Robin feel better to think we are as fucked as he is, fine with me. Those poor bastards have no mechanism to walk any of this back.

We have it and yet nobody has used it thus far. Granted, some places like FL haven't really posed a needas even the original mandates were impotent when it came to inforcement, but I can't imagine where the line in the sand is for some folks.

Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. Bitching and rolling over seem to be the only pasdt behaviors.

And last time I checked, I think Islamists constitute a bigger threat to US National Security than the UK’s given the couple of towers of yours that fell over on 9/11 killing a few thousand people.

So the last time you checked was 9/12? That was one attack. Now maybe the Muslims who attack the US are smarter than your batch there, but using the thousands killed in one attack to demonstrate an overall threat is moronic.

....and yet there you are, not wearing a mask in a country where you’re four times more likely to get murdered than mine. What mechanism do you have to walk all your murder victims back to life?

The mechanism to not being killed in the first place is there, but the people being killed choose not to exercise it. They choose to make sure only criminals have guns in their neighborhoods and then refuse to call the police or testify or move or anything else.

God, we people who can walk outside every day and not get murdered here in the United States amongst our 3.8 million square miles of total land area have it so bad. Shit, the only 80,000 square miles the British enjoy must be so liberating.

It's been so easy to not get murdered, even with my occasional trips to dangerous areas, that it's a wonder anyone is.

It's really kind of hard to get murdered in the US.....as long as your spouse is happy.

A bunch of drivel further confining that you are the king of projection and double standards.

Seriously. Try the reflection thing. You're literally the exhibit A the kids throw "OK, Boomer" around.

Rape culture, I suppose. I wonder who could be committing these crimes?

Can't talk about them in the UK without risking jail time.

The Manchester Police were literally threatening to find and arrest folks saying nasty things after a bunch of these sheep fuckers blew up a full concert venue.

It was and is literally so important to them to not to expose the demented first cousin fucker culture that they refuse to follow up on legitimate leads involving thousands of girls.

Thankfully the Crown has arranged things so that they can only chop people's heads off though.

No Jovan, the UK coronavirus bill legislation expires in one year

Suuure it does.

, hardly anyone is wearing masks outside, the vaccination refusal rate is high, many defy the order in areas they are told to wear a mask and thousands of people are still going on holiday in the UK thus circumnavigating the travel restrictions by booking appointments to view a property for intended purchase abroad which they never intend to attend.

Yes. Let's conflate the ability to work the system with having a just one.

What IS closed indefinitely are the lives of your many, many murder victims

But not all?

I though that I was the only one holding out for a zombie apocalypse.

and all abortion clinics in Alabama. Cool.

The horror!!!! Women in 2021 might have to learn how a dick operates before letting one inside them. The level of retarded needed to get knocked up in 2021 demonstrates we need to turn all the abortion clinics into sterilization clinics ASAP.

You might need that land to build prisons for all your murderers and for the offspring of raped women who aren’t allowed to have abortions in many states. Nice freedoms...

Try decaffeinated tea or something.

What rapes, Robin? There were no convictions. Therefore no rapes. Or did you forget already? Or are those only the rules for counting in the UK? Or maybe when the perpetrators are Muslims?

At least she can actually leave her country if she doesn't like it.

And I'm pretty sure she can literally drive to the next state over.

Nobody with any sense open-carries. Makes people nervous, and shows the bad guys who to shoot first.

My understanding is that open carry laws are useful to avoid false claims of brandishing. But you're correct: open carry is generally dumb and not knowing who is carrying means everyone could be carrying, which makes everyone safer.

Someone needs to factually clear up the IRS role in other countries.

I know people (factually) that have no income in the US that have received multiple stimulus checks because they have filled annually to prove they have no income in the US. I guess the IRS hunted them down, tortured them a little, and, in ultimate submission, made them take some (more) cash.

There is a cap for US expats before they have to pay income taxes. I forget the number exactly, but I think it was $100,000 while I was in the UAE, BUT that didn't include the "free" housing and medical, ect. Plus they don't exactly send 1099's to the IRS.

[Jovan Dragisic]

Aside from the fact that they simply don't have enough food to become a fat slob, you are right.

They seem to have good teeth too, even the drawer-jawed drunk at the pool. Just sayin.

[Nicholas Laureys]

You don't want the shots, hey fine. No skin off me. That's your business. Likewise all the blood and thunder you keep spouting about dooooom. I've been through this before in the 70's. Your memory of that time may be dim, if you were even born then.

Please do share more! What kinds of debates were going on about vaccinations in the seventies, what rights were lost then that it seems inconceivable to have now? What kind of racial/socio-economic/cultural norms existed then, which are simply utopian for us all now?

I already mentioned how *I* got to travel in July 2001 without the madness that is "security" in today's airports, but anyone born in the later eighties or nineties probably cannot even perceive the possibility of a relative escorting you right down to.tge plane's gate.

Similarly, your simple flu shot will soon be so frequent and mandatory that our children will not even conceive a life without them (oh, fine, that's not a given, but it's, what, at least 80% likely, given how billions of humans have chosen to behave this past year?)

Lemme guess Mark, back in the seventies kids could go to school without being vaccinated? They were ALLOWED to be taught sex ed with an abstinence option? What are these similar societal changes you went through in the seventies, which today's assaults on liberty feel oddly similar to? What is the "this" that you've been through before, in the seventies?

I know this is a point you have unintentionally made, but your historical references to the 1970's may help those of us in our thirties and forties understand how big this fight is, and how important it is to wake up as many millions as possible. Please do not shirk your responsibility here, to the future generations.

[Jenni]

I guess you didn't believe me. You're now a troll. Sorry.

And a factually incorrect one at that. The assertions about Alabama and rape victims are both provably wrong. They're also a weird diversion from the debate at hand.

[wal]

I live in Virginia and there is no license to open carry, only concealed and while that offends me, is still pretty easy. Take a evening gun safety class and visit your county office.

You folk in the US have a 2nd Amendment, but here in Aus there is no such thing, the last mass shooting years ago in Tasmania removed most firearms after a gun amnesty and buy back scheme, a plan I might add is being considered by the folk in Washington DC. So your AR-15 will be the first to go after Biden bypasses the congress and makes an executive decision, then will come concealable firearms and you will be like the rest of us with on open carry only for your cell phone.