COVID19 Factors We Should Consider/Current Events

[kelly08]

Talking about politics is like old women gossiping -- everything is fantasy. The information from which theories are formed is unreliable. That being said, the powers that be in the democrat party would prefer Trump be elected rather than RFK. Both Trump and Biden are easily manipulated by people around them.

[Mark Rippetoe]

You are very close to writing a manifesto for the newest genocidal dictator. I know in theory you think those "simple" solutions are good. So did genocidal dictators. And when you get enough "strong youth" to follow a leader with simple but drastic solutions, evidence shows it doesn't end well. The road to hell is paved with good intentions

You consider these to be "drastic solutions"?

[francesco.decaro]

You consider these to be "drastic solutions"?

they are when you consider what it would take to put them in practice and the consequences, in a realistic scenario. I believe JFK was shot in the head with not a lot of effort. It's just not a system you can change from the inside, in my opinion. And those that try either get killed or become killers.

[TommyGun]

Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Carlo Cipolla would agree with you (Bonhoeffer's Theory of Stupidity, excerpted below; Carlo Cipolla, The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity)

Dietrich Bonhoeffer, from After Ten Years in Letters and Papers from Prison
(Dietrich Bonhoeffer Works/English, vol. 8) Minneapolis, MN: Fortress Press, 2010.

Short version of Bonhoeffer's theory here:https://twitter.com/ULTRA_MAJESTY/st...67455516414250

Wow, we are going upscale here with the Bonhoefer reference, he was quite a guy. Unafraid to stand up for principles....
no virtue signaling from him, just a willingness to do more than talk.

[Subby]

You are very close to writing a manifesto for the newest genocidal dictator. I know in theory you think those "simple" solutions are good. So did genocidal dictators. And when you get enough "strong youth" to follow a leader with simple but drastic solutions, evidence shows it doesn't end well. The road to hell is paved with good intentions

People voted for Hitler because the alternative was the status quo (or communism) both of which were far worse. The road to hell is also paved with apathy.
As someone said earlier in the thread (Anticausal maybe?) It may not be time for violence, but it’s certainly time for retribution.
The longer we wait to correct, the more force is required. Eventually Hitler 2.0 will be the only option.

[Mark Rippetoe]

I watched this again today: Covid Nurse Speaks Out — CHD Bus Stories

This is a ballsy gal. I'm proud of her.

[Satch12879]

they are when you consider what it would take to put them in practice and the consequences, in a realistic scenario. I believe JFK was shot in the head with not a lot of effort. It's just not a system you can change from the inside, in my opinion. And those that try either get killed or become killers.

It is true that it was a trivial exercise to kill Kennedy. Those who did it were well practiced and essentially did it every day. What took a lot of effort was what came afterward for the last 60 years.

The revolution is the easy part that comes at the end, not the beginning.

[George Christiansen]

You are very close to writing a manifesto for the newest genocidal dictator. I know in theory you think those "simple" solutions are good. So did genocidal dictators. And when you get enough "strong youth" to follow a leader with simple but drastic solutions, evidence shows it doesn't end well. The road to hell is paved with good intentions

You know who else drank water?

You have to be pretty dense to not think we are headed towards genocide right now; either actively done by government forces Soviet style or done through the military aged men they are replacing Western and white men with.

And if these are so drastic that they cause mass killing then there are obviously masses that need killing....or they could just go home or any number of other alternatives that don't amount to an active invasion of the West.

[Barry Charles]

Talking about politics is like old women gossiping -- everything is fantasy. The information from which theories are formed is unreliable.

Paradoxically, many of us here (myself included) have proclaimed that all media lies and then we quote select media to be persuasive. It’s human I guess.

[George Christiansen]

People voted for Hitler because the alternative was the status quo (or communism) both of which were far worse. The road to hell is also paved with apathy.
As someone said earlier in the thread (Anticausal maybe?) It may not be time for violence, but it’s certainly time for retribution.
The longer we wait to correct, the more force is required. Eventually Hitler 2.0 will be the only option.

It is true that it may very well take a "strong man", but it is amazing how everyone insists that that has to look like the Hollywood version of Hitler. My read of world history doesn't show this and I feel like that fear (although caution with power is always warranted) is yet another means of maintaining apathy. The same goes with the proverbial mockery of "My guy will fix things." as if there is no meaningful difference between the "guys" and it's just some law of physics that leadership has to be evil.