COVID19 Factors We Should Consider/Current Events

[wal]

Wal, I agree with you on this. I shared the article because Colpo is always intriguing, regardless of whether you agree with him. In this case, though, he’s way off. He has two other articles that are even more bizarre, but I won’t be linking those.

No worries Bud. Here is a link to a computer generated model on the assassin's bullet path near Trump's head, you may have seen it already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBz6GZcH-kw

[Matt Jackson]

I'm a stock trader, and had that bullet connected and killed Trump, the market would've likely hit circuit breakers last Monday a la Covid lockdowns. Institutions are hedged, but I find the detachment to this "limit down" event so unbelievably weird. Do people not understand the destabilizing effect this would have on the US as a "safe" investment.

Lots of anti-Trumpers are Boomers who of upper middle class persuasion - who love being abused so long as housing prices and 401K's are up, and pensions are well-funded. It's these very people (the life blood of the regime) who have most to lose, ironically.

What makes this so different from 2016: we're seeing the rise of a new elite, not populism. From David Sacks, to Bill Ackman, to Elon Musk, to even Jamie Dimon serving a Treasury post. Most elites were either closeted pro-Trump or rabidly anti-Trump in 2016 and even 2020. People who aren't going to just let an assassination go. The whole detachment to the implications (incl. at the jovial RNC) is just really strange to me.

Of course the markets would react to a political assassination, but Trump would have easily been replaced by someone else and the show would go on.

Boomers will be dead before they see the worst of it. I doubt I'll even have access to a government pension. British Boomers can sit pretty with their triple locked gov pensions and watch it all go down with a nice glass of red.

The thing is, Lefty Boomers have been brainwashed to describe the existential threat as "fascism". Conservative boomer's have always characterised the threat as "socialism". They're both wrong, it's the intentional replacement of Whites in America and slowly, but surely, in patches America will operate and feel more and more like a third world country.

This is why this year's RNC has the atmosphere of a jovial, retarded party, not a crisis meeting to literally save the lives of American people. We've been told that "they" want both Trump and his voters dead, and we've apparently just witnessed the most concrete evidence of this, and this is the response. The message was confused because these people, Trump included, stand for absolutely nothing.

Except the guy who appeared on stage and barked at the goyim "SCREAM IF YOU LOVE ISRAEL!" and described Trump as "the most pro-Israel president ever". He definitely believes in something. Republican National Convention Milwaukee 2024, Day 2 - YouTube

It is beyond parody. The Jewish guy, and AMBER ROSE.

(Cue the mandatory comment about my noticing the fact there's something wrong with Americans being required to worship and submit to another country)

Your description also perfectly sums up why no grassroots candidate from truly outside of the false left/right paradigm/uniparty structure could EVER ascend to power and represent the American people. Why the whole idea of American democracy is a joke. If anyone upset the status quo, can you imagine the capital flight out of the USA? Would this ever be allowed to happen? This is the real source of the problem - not trannies, not green haired kindergarten instructors, and not "socialists".

[Yngvi]

Vance is a ***Marine***, lawyer, and has an Indian wife. It's not a "unity" ticket like RFK Jr. (which was a poor idea), but it does give Trump a bulldog of a VP. Presumably. Vance also has the look, and is his own kind of unity candidate.

***He was a public communications marine*** or something; sounds like a glorified wartime correspondent journalist for the media branch of the military (aka propaganda).

What look exactly does he have that is beneficial?
The Indian wife is a good thing politically for some reason?

Yes, I believe any of those choices would have been excellent and that there were probably 20 more excellent choices.
Trump is the frontman; no name recognition or charisma needed for VP candidate.

He looks to me like he comes from the same failed cookie-cutter politician model of: selfishly ambitious ivy league educated lawyer with highly questionable military service credentials who had a miraculous revelation that making America great again or putting Americans first is actually a good thing, not evil as he had previously said.

[Yngvi]

I just watched JD Vance speak for the first time and my impression is that he has the Hill-dog Clinton look; Overly practiced, overly careful, overly scripted, robotic and disingenuous.

[golftdibrad]

Vaccinated Man Who Said You Won'''t Get COVID If You'''re Vaccinated Gets COVID Again

Brandon has covid again. Such safety, so effective

President Joe Biden has tested positive for COVID, yet again, the White House announced on Wednesday afternoon.

Biden, who claimed to have a cold during June's disastrous debate against former President Donald Trump is set to miss a scheduled speaking engagement in Las Vegas after testing positive. The White House's statement announcing the positive test result repeated the necessary line that most public figures repeat after getting COVID: he's vaccinated and boosted.

"He is vaccinated and boosted and he is experiencing mild symptoms," the White House statement said. "He will be returning to Delaware where he will self-isolate and will continue to carry out all of his duties fully during that time. The White House will provide regular updates on the President’s status as he continues to carry out the full duties of the office while in isolation."

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Somehow, after nearly four years of the vaccines and boosters utterly failing to stop infection or transmission, public figures still resort to the "vaccinated and boosted" line when announcing their latest positive test. Similarly to how those who studiously wore masks would blame others when they test positive.

Speaking of masks, after testing positive for COVID, Biden was seen getting out of a car, walking near other people and even heading into Air Force One without wearing a mask.

Maybe he and his team have finally realized that masks don't work.

This is the same person who wanted 2-year-olds to mask in government programs after all mandates for adults had ended. Now he's walking around smiling and waving, forcing the media to confront its worst fears: an unmasked person with COVID.


Then there's the other all-important question: what does this mean for Biden's future as a candidate for president? After his debate performance and a series of embarrassing public appearances, many, if not most Democrats, want Biden to drop out. He's repeatedly stated he has no intention of dropping out, though in a recent BET interview, claimed he'd consider it if he had a "medical condition that emerged."

"If I had some medical condition that emerged, if somebody — if doctors came to me and said you got this problem, that problem," he said when asked what would lead him to exit the race.

Well COVID can certainly count as a "medical condition," especially if Biden's team wants it to. Given the increasing calls from former supporters that he step down, that seems like a distinct possibility.

As if we needed more proof of what a farce the media and expert obsession with boosters and masks really, Biden's latest positive test provides even more of it. Just wait until he gets it again after another booster this year.

What are odds the olde ticker just stops in the next week "from covid" or what we really know will be some of that sea eye eh joose. They have to not be zero.

[Jason Donaldson]

Think of the scene in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly where multiple parties are counting the time it takes the bank guards in El Paso to make their patrol circuit, and how that gets used against the bank.

Crap - I messed this up. That scene's in For a Few Dollars More.

I do have a Scofield Bible which does have a non-allegorical approach to prophecy hence its understanding that Israel will continue as a nation and has not been replaced by the "Church" and the US contained the largest diaspora of Jews after WWII, but that is not relevant to what is happening in the US, unlike Australia in the US the "Christian" Nationalists tie politics and Christianity together. They are mostly republicans and support a right wing government and believe that God's nation is the USA and Trump is the man that will bring back the USA to its rightful place to rule the world. Call it a "Christian" caliphate if you will and that only the USA under a Christian POTUS can keep those evil nations subdued and usher in a "Christian" utopia. It is true that countries such as Australia including Israel benefit from a strong America and under Biden that security has fallen.

The influence of Scofieldism is definitely a major worldview factor in American political support for the modern state of Israel. Its particular style of eschatology became the default in many influential circles some time ago. While it seems to be on something of an ebb in terms of theological traction, the politics are still pretty entrenched.

I'd say the Christian dominionism you describe is more rooted in a different view (postmillenialism, historically), though. Scofield's dispensationalism is a more grim, pessimistic view in general, but the postmillenial approach has long resulted in that sort of cultural triumphalism, going back to the era of the Pilgrims.

It's largely splitting hairs, though, especially from a political standpoint, as they can mesh perfectly fine, as we see in political entities' simultaneous use of both sets of outlook to win followers. (How's that for grim and cynical?)

As to those using Revelation 13:3 (presumably to paint Trump as an antichrist/the Antichrist), as someone who reads classical and koine Greek, I can tell you it doesn't work grammatically. I'd be happy to discuss, but it's Rip's board, not a Biblical exegesis one.

The shooter was shooting from elevation at 150m with glass. A modern quality AR-15 is going to come from the factory with an average 1-1.5 MOA barrel, and if you're slinging 77 gr. match quality ammo we're seeing less lateral deviation from wind.

The early press reporting, for what it's worth, said he bought 50 rounds of ammo the day of. If accurate, and if that's what he used, it's probably not match grade, but 55 gr old-school or 62 gr green-tip, I'd guess. I do still agree with your assessment on the simple shot, though, and how close it was to a very different outcome. Like with my comment about my own movie mistake, I'm just busting out my superhero identity of Captain Pedantic...

No, that was purely unlucky for the shooter. Now, my faith calls more for divine providence over direct intervention, but miraculous none-the-less.

I will point this out in reference to this and wal's comments: There's ample room in Christian understanding of both providential and particular care for God preserving the life of a leader who is neither good nor a blessing. One who believes that God intervenes in history, particularly one following the Bible, should be able to see that leaders often serve to curse nations, too, and at least as often....

[Frank_B]

DJT Short Positions, Funds Shorting Trump Media & Technology Group Corp.

Apparently Austin Capital

Meh… I’ve been shorting it pretty often myself. Buying calls is probably the right thing to do now that he won.

[wal]

Crap - I messed this up. That scene's in For a Few Dollars More.

No matter still a good movie. Where is Clint Eastwood these days?

The influence of Scofieldism is definitely a major worldview factor in American political support for the modern state of Israel. Its particular style of eschatology became the default in many influential circles some time ago. While it seems to be on something of an ebb in terms of theological traction, the politics are still pretty entrenched.

I'd say the Christian dominionism you describe is more rooted in a different view (postmillenialism, historically), though. Scofield's dispensationalism is a more grim, pessimistic view in general, but the postmillenial approach has long resulted in that sort of cultural triumphalism, going back to the era of the Pilgrims.

It's largely splitting hairs, though, especially from a political standpoint, as they can mesh perfectly fine, as we see in political entities' simultaneous use of both sets of outlook to win followers. (How's that for grim and cynical?)

As to those using Revelation 13:3 (presumably to paint Trump as an antichrist/the Antichrist), as someone who reads classical and koine Greek, I can tell you it doesn't work grammatically. I'd be happy to discuss, but it's Rip's board, not a Biblical exegesis one.

Turning this forum into a discussion on Prophecy would in my opinion ( at times I have tried) would be stretching the friendship somewhat. However the postmill folk see this world becoming better till it reaches a kind of "Christian" Nirvana ending in the 1000 year millennium where as the pre-mill folk see the world continuing to descend into chaos culminating in a 7 year Tribulation which starts with the "White" horse rider i.e. the "man" of peace which now according to some of your prophecy interpreters see as Trump, because the he has stated he will bring peace and prosperity back to the world and end war. The post-mill folk see Trump as the man who will bring back dominance of the USA as the premier nation on this earth and will once again spread thier version of a Christian caliphate on this earth. It is crazy stuff. What has propelled this to light speed is Trump's "miraculous" preservation from death. Kenneth Copeland (one of your fellow Texans Mark) and folk of his ilk are pushing this nonsense.

If Biden pulls out which most commentators here believe he will and not take the DNC nomination Kamala Harris will be if Trump loses will be your next President, If this happens and she wins I am not coming to the States, I am going to stay here in crazy Australia.

[Jason Donaldson]

Vaccinated Man Who Said You Won'''t Get COVID If You'''re Vaccinated Gets COVID Again

Brandon has covid again. Such safety, so effective
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What are odds the olde ticker just stops in the next week "from covid" or what we really know will be some of that sea eye eh joose. They have to not be zero.

Biden said he might leave office '''if I had some medical condition that emerged''' - ABC News

To quote Michael Scott, the timing was nothing short of predominant.

The note at the bottom is also...fascinating:

Editor's note: This story has been updated, after the full interview aired, to reflect that Biden said he would consider stepping aside from a second term if he had a "medical condition."

[David A. Rowe]

You can hear his medical team writing the remdesevir prescription from here.

"Take as necessary *WINKY EMOJI*"

***He was a public communications Marine*** or something; sounds like a glorified wartime correspondent journalist for the media branch of the military (aka propaganda).

Bolded fixed for title. Look, Yngvi... he and I come from the same era. Long before the Army expanded their efforts (*cough* JESSICA LYNCH *cough cough*) to train all soldiers in combat skills, the Marine Corps was doing it since forever ago. I started as intelligence, but yet found myself deploying to Afghanistan in a combat theater in a combat arms unit. One of my buddies was deployed more than most infantry units as intelligence, and he had multiple combat awards and purple hearts. Iraq was notorious for band members (not the President's Own... they're not actually Marines), artillery units, and anyone else available pulled to kick in doors with everyone else. Even had he not been deployed, he still dealt with Bootcamp/OCS, and I know how formative that experience is.

Also, you are confusing Public Affairs with Civil Affairs/PsyOPs. Public affairs offices exist to keep commanding officers or flag grade officers (generals/admirals) from putting something stupid out publicly. Few realize this, but a flag grade officer holds the authority to change just about anything about how the military does something with merely a written or spoken word. You're also not going to believe this, but sometimes those same officers, despite whatever may have qualified them in the eyes of senior military or civilian leadership, absolutely suck at public speaking. Whatever your feelings about politics and history, Mattis was notoriously bad about speaking with the press and saying something the same way he'd say it to Marines in the field. Didn't bother me, but those aforementioned leaders get their knickers in a twist over it.

What look exactly does he have that is beneficial?
The Indian wife is a good thing politically for some reason?

Apparently, he has some nuts and conviction. He appears to hold his values. As with everything, only time will tell, but it has one massive benefit: if you want the reform and rebuilding efforts Trump has been trying to actualize to continue for more than 4 years or beyond his death... someone needs to be available to replace him. Multiple someones.

Yes, I believe any of those choices would have been excellent and that there were probably 20 more excellent choices.
Trump is the frontman; no name recognition or charisma needed for VP candidate.

I don't think you're weighting the optics nearly heavily enough. It's still a high school popularity contest, man. That's never going away, and it was never any different.

He looks to me like he comes from the same failed cookie-cutter politician model of: selfishly ambitious ivy league educated lawyer with highly questionable military service credentials who had a miraculous revelation that making America great again or putting Americans first is actually a good thing, not evil as he had previously said.

The early press reporting, for what it's worth, said he bought 50 rounds of ammo the day of. If accurate, and if that's what he used, it's probably not match grade, but 55 gr old-school or 62 gr green-tip, I'd guess. I do still agree with your assessment on the simple shot, though, and how close it was to a very different outcome. Like with my comment about my own movie mistake, I'm just busting out my superhero identity of Captain Pedantic...

Fair enough, and I will admit to an assumption: given the appearance and descriptors of the shooter available, coupled with him being willing to take a shot on a President/Candidate, I assumed he approached this with autistic levels of planning and research. If you assume either a 5.56 55gr or 62gr steel core full-power factory load from a 16"+ barrel, then the shot is still well within the effective terminal ballistic energy range and accuracy performance. They're also traveling a bit faster, and again less affected by wind/gravity. Not a big deal in side of 200 yards. Ironic to me that the flag from the picture suspended from the crane would have made a great wind call flag.

I will point this out in reference to this and wal's comments: There's ample room in Christian understanding of both providential and particular care for God preserving the life of a leader who is neither good nor a blessing. One who believes that God intervenes in history, particularly one following the Bible, should be able to see that leaders often serve to curse nations, too, and at least as often....

Well, I was just alluding to my own understanding without dragging systemic theology, biblical scholarship or other such nuances. Summed as neatly as I can in this moment, if you are aligned with the will of the Creator, it has been my personal experience and observation that the pathway of your efforts opens up (and inversely doors are closed) when you act in accordance with that. One of the fundamental understandings about our relationship with God is that it is, first and foremost, a partnership. Intended as so from the beginning, and our failures and shortcomings are not disqualifications so long as we seek what we should. I don't doubt the omnipotence, but I do recognize that it was made clear that was limited in such a way to never impede the free will of the individual by God himself. And please don't @me with a debate on this on this forum thread -- keep Rip's preferences in mind. Shoot me a private message if you want to debate or talk.