COVID19 Factors We Should Consider/Current Events

[Mark E. Hurling]

I don't know a goddamn thing except that no attempt was made to keep him from doing anything to anybody until he was shot in the back 7 times, and that you never see a cop doing anything wrong.

I have to agree with the first part of your sentence, but apparently you forgot my post about Floyd a week or so back where I said the cops just should have picked up his big ass and shackled him securely and to something immovable in the police vehicle and left. Instead of what they DID do.

Selective memory much?

[Mark Rippetoe]

Struggled with police from a video at another angle on the other side of the car.
New Angle of Jacob Blake Shooting Shows Struggle With Cops From Other Side

Shitty video, still shows poorly trained cops, Kenosha still burns. Fine with me if it's okay with you. But you know the cops fucked this up.

Previously charged with gun crimes and assaulting police while resisting arrest.
Police: K9 Dozer Helps Subdue Man Who Pulled Gun at Bar | Local News I Racine County Eye - Racine, Wisconsin
Known to have a gun in his car from this previous arrest: "A subsequent search of the SUV turned up a black handgun on the floor behind the drivers seat"

Makes absolutely no difference what his record was. If he had felony warrants, why did they let him get back to the car door? The cops fucked this up, you know it, we all know it, and it's not like George Floyd, which was bad enough anyway. Chaos will ensue, and the cops will not control it. You shoot people when you have to, like during a fucking riot, and you don't shoot people when you should do other shit first. You shoot people to make them stop doing that when nothing else will work, and you don't shoot people when there are other alternatives. I guess it boils down to your tolerance for rioting, right?

[Barry Charles]

She's Number 2, but that's close enough for a shirt.

She's Number 2, but that's close enough for a shirt.

If the reference to linen is to “my pillow” I would ask you to consider the number one spot. Personally, I want the “my pillow guy “ to get Covid.

[CommanderFun]

Shitty video, still shows poorly trained cops, Kenosha still burns. Fine with me if it's okay with you. But you know the cops fucked this up.

Yep, and we're not gonna be seeing a higher caliber of cops anytime soon. De-funded police will mean we get even WORSE cops who still have guns and the benefit of the doubt in court.

[David A. Rowe]

Shitty video, still shows poorly trained cops, Kenosha still burns. Fine with me if it's okay with you. But you know the cops fucked this up.



Makes absolutely no difference what his record was. If he had felony warrants, why did they let him get back to the car door? The cops fucked this up, you know it, we all know it, and it's not like George Floyd, which was bad enough anyway. Chaos will ensue, and the cops will not control it. You shoot people when you have to, like during a fucking riot, and you don't shoot people when you should do other shit first. You shoot people to make them stop doing that when nothing else will work, and you don't shoot people when there are other alternatives. I guess it boils down to your tolerance for rioting, right?

Do you think that policing, in a nearly ubiquitous manner in the thousands of agencies in this country, got to this point because of the police?

No, I think Kenosha will burn because it's exactly what the citizens deserve. Just as they have the police and government they deserve. Hopefully, you have done better with your own community and police force so that your town doesn't burn to the ground, too.

[Kitsuma]

Atilis Gym registered his location as a REPUBLICAN policitical HQ and is open for business!!

BREAKING

The owner of Atilis Gym in Bellmawr NJ who was arrested for keeping his business open during the #Plandemic, is fighting back. He registered his location as a REPUBLICAN policitical HQ and is open for business!! Checkmate MF

Regarding the latest police shooting: after months of 24/7 non-stop anti-police programming and worldwide riots, why would a policeman EVER do what this cop did? 7 times?

Well, somebody has to be "that" guy, so I'll be him .. I don't fucking believe it.

[Shiva Kaul]

In Denver, twice as many heart attacks during lockdown than in the months prior, or in any March/April on record:

There was a significantly higher (main effect, p = 0.003) mean number of weekly OHCAs in the post-mandate period (46 per week) compared with pre-mandate (26 per week; p = 0.001) and perimandate (27 per week; p = 0.004) periods ...comparing the 2020 post-mandate period with historical controls demonstrated a 2.2-fold higher total count of OHCAs (92 vs. 41; p = 0.002)

Ambulance calls dropped concordantly. Hysteria-driven fear of treatment, not COVID-19, seems to blame. File under “cure worse than disease”:

...the excess in OHCA was greater than the number of patients who died with COVID-19 diagnoses during the same time frame.

[Jovan Dragisic]

I think you guys are attributing too much intelligence to the media, thinking there is a sustained propaganda effort going on. I quit my job as a journalist before the clickbait thing really got off the ground, but back in 2010 we were essentially running the newsroom based on the hit counter. That’s a part of the website giving you statistics on how many clicks you get per article. The primary focus was on pumping titles that would attract a so and so number of clicks, the content of the articles didn’t really matter as statistics show that more than 90 percent of readers don’t stay on the article long enough to actually read it.

I was topping the charts for years with titles about, I shit you not, crocodiles. Hit counters these days probably show that words like “mask”, “lockdown”, “vaccine” top the list, so this is what is getting pumped. Unfortunately for everybody alive now, national policy seems to also be based around the titles. It is the dumbest feedback loop ever. 2020 is the year when clickbait almost brought the world down.

[Mark Rippetoe]

Do you think that policing, in a nearly ubiquitous manner in the thousands of agencies in this country, got to this point because of the police?

No, I think Kenosha will burn because it's exactly what the citizens deserve. Just as they have the police and government they deserve. Hopefully, you have done better with your own community and police force so that your town doesn't burn to the ground, too.

We are in complete agreement. Kenosha voted for this, and though they may not have known it at the time, they know now. There are remedies, but I doubt they have the guts to admit they were wrong before.

I'm not worried about my community. All governments are manned by sociopaths, but ours is probably afraid of us. As they should be.

Atilis Gym registered his location as a REPUBLICAN policitical HQ and is open for business!!

Geniuses! I'm very proud of them.

Regarding the latest police shooting: after months of 24/7 non-stop anti-police programming and worldwide riots, why would a policeman EVER do what this cop did? 7 times?

Well, somebody has to be "that" guy, so I'll be him .. I don't fucking believe it.

I think he's not very bright. Operating in the moment only, a slave to his emotions.

2020 is the year when clickbait almost brought the world down.

2020 has 4 months to go.

[Jake Norman]

I've been following this police use of force discussion with some interest. Until very recently my policy on commenting on anything relating to gun violence or death in America was to not, because it was always the one interesting part of American politics that had no impact on the rest of the world. That's not true any more, as the global riots following Floyd's death demonstrate. This video looks to me pretty much like every other police killing video I've seen lately; not about race, just about poorly trained cops with more power than they have the responsibility to wield effectively, in an environment made permanently lethal by the widespread availability of firearms.

Anyway, I was thinking about commenting and I decided to look up the average salary of cops in America, which I'm seeing figures between $53k and $68k for, apparently slightly above the average annual salary. That got me wondering what a shmoe working at Wendy's earns ($18k) and then what the Federal minimum wage is. That led to me clicking on the following;

1912 Lawrence textile strike - Wikipedia

I think this aspect of the history of labour unionism in the US is much more interesting that stupid badly trained cops shooting people in the back seven times, so if you want a distraction I thoroughly recommend it. I know a lot of you folks are lassaiz-faire capitalism types so I'd be curious to know what you think of this particular, historical, socialist interference with the gentle touch of the invisible hand.