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    Default Form check, getting serious about power cleans

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    I'd like to add power cleans to my workouts. I haven't until now, but I'm nearing the end of my LP on the other four lifts so I want to add this so I can see significant progress on a lift.

    Question: Is it a power clean because it starts from the hang rather than the floor, or does it get that designation because you don't drop into a full squat to catch it? Or both. Or some other reason?

    I started with 135# but failed on my third rep, so I dropped the weight to #115. I'll begin an LP from there.

    I know I'm not getting great full extension, but how bad is it? I do not think I'm pulling with my arms, but I might be dropping down too quick, before the full extension. I thought I stayed over mid foot pretty well.

    #135 x 2 + fail: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Yh...Qc3RrPRAhel5Ww

    #115 x 5, two (of three sets):
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...lBXRWgtSVFhOEE

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xS..._yxy-8T07CYHSg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamal View Post
    I'd like to add power cleans to my workouts. I haven't until now, but I'm nearing the end of my LP on the other four lifts so I want to add this so I can see significant progress on a lift.

    Question: Is it a power clean because it starts from the hang rather than the floor, or does it get that designation because you don't drop into a full squat to catch it? Or both. Or some other reason?

    I started with 135# but failed on my third rep, so I dropped the weight to #115. I'll begin an LP from there.

    I know I'm not getting great full extension, but how bad is it? I do not think I'm pulling with my arms, but I might be dropping down too quick, before the full extension. I thought I stayed over mid foot pretty well.

    #135 x 2 + fail: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Yh...Qc3RrPRAhel5Ww

    #115 x 5, two (of three sets):
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...lBXRWgtSVFhOEE

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xS..._yxy-8T07CYHSg
    Hang clean if you pull from the hang, power clean if you catch it without the squat, hang power clean if you do both.

    There's s lot to address here. Did you go step-by-step as recommended in the book?

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    I did read the book and watch the videos. It seems that I don't process the book well. Over the past few months, I posted squat and deadlift videos. Although I had read the book and watched the video, my form was roundly--but usefully--panned. But I worked on them until I couldn't improve them any more and then made an appointment with an SS Coach. And the coach thought I was great, truly impressive for someone who had "no coaching"! So I'm hoping to go the same route again.

    Although now that I think about it, the first step on my squat journey might have been a lot of criticism for not reading the book carefully. Yeah, it's coming back...then, mortified, I went back to the book before posting again...I think I'll go now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamal View Post
    I did read the book and watch the videos. It seems that I don't process the book well. Over the past few months, I posted squat and deadlift videos. Although I had read the book and watched the video, my form was roundly--but usefully--panned. But I worked on them until I couldn't improve them any more and then made an appointment with an SS Coach. And the coach thought I was great, truly impressive for someone who had "no coaching"! So I'm hoping to go the same route again.

    Although now that I think about it, the first step on my squat journey might have been a lot of criticism for not reading the book carefully. Yeah, it's coming back...then, mortified, I went back to the book before posting again...I think I'll go now...
    Well in-person coaching will do more for you than posting on the boards. But if you want to do some work on these in the meantime, follow each step in the book to the letter and post videos of any steps that give you trouble along the way.

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    It's a good start though, I'd say. I've seen a lot worse first attempts.

    Let's start with the biggest problem: you're being impatient. Stand up tall with the barbell and imagine someone putting their hand on your upper back. That person imaginary is going to keep standing there. As you do the next rep, you're not allowed to dive under the bar until you've touched his hand with your back – you must fully extend first.

    By being too impatient you're leaving a lot of power on the table. Not a huge problem with these weights but you'll find it hard to progress until you tap into that.

    Post a new video when you've fixed that and we'll tackle the next problem.

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