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    A friend of mine is convinced the only way for him to lose weight is through juicing. He ends up doing nothing but juicing for the summer. He for sure loses a lot of weight and thinks it helps "detox" his liver/kidneys etc.

    I'm curious what your thoughts are on this? I'm thinking it's pretty much a starvation diet punctuated by sugar water with a bit of vegetable nutrients in it.

    I suspect he also has some thyroid issues that are not being treated which may be why when he does any other types of diet and long distance running they don't have much of an effect.

    That or he may also be a closet binge eater. Really want to help him, because juicing just sounds like starvation to me.

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    It sounds like you're spot on. Despite the potential micronutrient density, most juiced "shakes" are low in calories, food reward/palatability, etc. though it is possible to do otherwise. At any rate, think about it like this: Say you want to lose weight but you have a habit of falling off the wagon (non compliant) all the time. We reason this out to be a case of having too many options, too many potential rationalizations of binge eating behavior, etc. What sort of diet protocol is likely to work for you at this juncture? One that you don't have to think about and is pretty hard to screw up. Enter the shake-based diets (of all types). How do you know you're doing it right? You're only drinking the shakes (so there's no potential to screw it up without intentionally sabotaging yourself). Similarly, since the food isn't that palatable (the shake), it's pretty hard to overeat so people lose weight.

    This is similar to the classical amino acid + vitamin + fish oil diets researchers used on obese people in the 20's and 30's, e.g. use a bland liquid based diet and people are massively calorie restricted and lose weight.

    Problem is, without sustained accountability and tracking (e.g. weighing/measuring/logging/etc.) the propensity for weight gain is almost insurmountable. The latest I've seen is >95% tend to regain even more weight. The majority of these 95% are folks who lose a diet in a quick manner (biggest loser for instance) or in ways that don't involve consistent accountability.

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    Thanks for the response. That's the kind of well worded discussion I'd love to have with my friend. Instead of just parroting, That's bad man, don't do it. There are better and more optimum ways!

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    Yeah those Juicing people are insane. I used to be on their forum - they advocated juice fast for a PREGNANT woman ... they are brain dead. I also know some Juicing "gurus" who have snapped out of it and realized they were destroying their health, and now they are eating Paleo ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by idlehands View Post
    Thanks for the response. That's the kind of well worded discussion I'd love to have with my friend. Instead of just parroting, That's bad man, don't do it. There are better and more optimum ways!
    I'd just start antagonizing him relentlessly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Feigenbaum View Post
    I'd just start antagonizing him relentlessly.
    I like this advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Feigenbaum View Post
    I'd just start antagonizing him relentlessly.
    it should become pretty easy, since he will be so irritable from not eating

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    I'm very good at that. He just tunes me out and then ceases to hang out.

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    Thought this was gonna be a steroid thread lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellyDownArmbar View Post
    Thought this was gonna be a steroid thread lol
    Wait, have I been doing it wrong?

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