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    Default Should I join this gym or not, Rip?

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    There's a new gym I found, primarily Oly-lifting orientated. But, as I'm under 16, I had to let them make whatever changes they wanted to SS. They came up with the following:
    Squats HAVE to be high-bar, Deadlifts are replaced with "Clean Deadlifts", and they want me to do Clean Pulls, then Power Cleans, but then they want me doing Clean and Jerks instead of Power Cleans. But, here's the cincher: I suck ass at high bar squats. Like, can't even squat halfway down without it turning into a full Good Morning. I tried doing low-bar, but then he said "put the bar up on your traps". He didn't budge on this. He said my back was rounding (when doing low-bar) but we had a strongman in my old gym and he said my low-bar squat was perfectly fine, as he wants my chest strictly upright and rigid. I'm thinking when he meant 'rounding' was actually the correct bar path for low-bar squats as written by you in SS. Should I just stay at my current gym where I can low bar to my heart's content?

    Summary:

    ---Gym making me do high bar, even though I suck ass at high bar
    ---Not allowed to Deadlift, have to do "Clean Deadlifts", basically Deadlifts where you spike your chest upright and rigid
    ---Gym will eventually be making me do C&J's instead of PC's.

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    Find a coach you like. Do what he tells you to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellyDownArmbar View Post
    There's a new gym I found, primarily Oly-lifting orientated. But, as I'm under 16, I had to let them make whatever changes they wanted to SS.
    It doesn't matter how old you are, you don't have to let them make changes. You can stay right where you are. You only have to make them let changes if you want them to coach you, which is perfectly right on their part. I may not agree on the changes they want, but I agree that they're right to insist that you train as they coach you to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Herbison View Post
    It doesn't matter how old you are, you don't have to let them make changes. You can stay right where you are. You only have to make them let changes if you want them to coach you, which is perfectly right on their part. I may not agree on the changes they want, but I agree that they're right to insist that you train as they coach you to do.
    Thing is I didnt want coaching, I just wanted a place that actually had more than one squat rack. But, because of my age, i HAVE to be coached by them.

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    You can develop strength using high-bar squats and clean deadlifts.
    Maybe they want you to do high-bar squats, because that's what they know how to coach it, and don't feel comfortable coaching low bar.

    If you suck at high bar squats now, they can probably help you to improve them (or otherwise they are total duck heads if they insist on you doing high bar and then don't even bother to teach you how to do it properly).

    I don't know if you have realized it, but sounds very much like they are trying to turn you into an olympic lifter.

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    Soooo, what's wrong with your existing gym? The only reason to change is if you want coaching and your existing gym doesn't have any. Otherwise a trainer will train you how he wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellyDownArmbar View Post
    But, because of my age, i HAVE to be coached by them.
    It's probably more like they are supervising you because of potential liability given your age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellyDownArmbar View Post
    Thing is I didnt want coaching, I just wanted a place that actually had more than one squat rack. But, because of my age, i HAVE to be coached by them.
    Ask if it's a legal requirement. If it is, find somewhere else to lift. If it's not, ask to talk to the person who makes the decision. Show him you know what you're doing, tell him you just want to train, and ask if he'll waive the requirement. I've done similar things.

    Or accept the coaching and do what they tell you.

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    If you can set up a home gym, do that. It will eventually pay for itself in gym dues and convenience. A good set of iron will last you your entire life. Your entire life. And your kids and grandkids entire lives. Then you can train how and when you want, and tell these wingnuts to go fuck themselves.

    http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/05...lass-home-gym/

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    Right, I think I'll stick at my current gym.

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