Tweakage

[ColoWayno]

Ok, I have an awesome log... really, take a look! I'm looking for input or tweaks on my advanced novice program. I wouldn't ask you to dig into this, except I know some of you guys dig digging into this stuff. So thanks.
My basic info is all right at the top of this page:
http://startingstrength.com/resource...=15104&page=13

I'm just finishing up a really short linear progression cycle to get back from vacation. I've done this stuff (variously doing the program and not doing the program) for a couple of years so I expect to be on an intermediate program pretty soon but I want to milk each stage as smartly as I can.

So, here's what I'm thinking right now (it's mostly pretty standard):
M: 3x5 squats, 3x5 presses (alt bench/oh), 3x5 weighted chins
W: light squats, 3x5 presses (alt bench/oh), 8x2 power cleans
F: 3x5 squats, 3x5 presses (alt bench/oh), 1x5 Deads, 1x1,2 or 3 max weighted chins

There are a couple of things I debated doing differently but let me know what you think.

[stronger]

seems like that should work. Let us know how the volume day and intensity day for chins go. I've considered doing that myself. Don't overthink coming back from a layoff. The strength will come back pretty quickly and you might even come back stronger than before.

[simonsky]

my take:

either do
M clean
W chin
F dead

or

M clean then chins
W snatch (very few)
F dead

[LimieJosh]

I agree with the former. If you need to take a light squat day in a wednesday, if you schedule your cleans for that day they will be utterly useless in my experience.

[Paul Sousa]

Same thought here. Move the cleans to Monday.

[stronger]

he can move his cleans to monday if he doesn't mind it being a longer workout because he'll have his chinups too.

[fnet]

I would move the deads to Monday, chins to Wednesday and cleans to Friday. Monday and Friday would be heavy with a recovery workout on Wednesday.

[ColoWayno]

So it looks like maybe I should hold off on the heavy chins and save that for a different type of programming and do cleans on Monday and chins on Wednesday.

I was thinking I'd be fresher on my light squat day for the cleans, which seem to break down if I'm fatigued. It seems like there's quite a bit of your experience telling me that doesn't work well. Hopefully I'll be fresher over all with the light squat day.

The good news is after two weeks of novice style progression I'm close to PR territory on just about everything, except deadlifts where I set a new PR last night.

Thanks!

[ColoWayno]

I did cleans tonight (Monday). I was pretty tired and a little sick to my stomach by the time I got to them. I only did 5 sets of 2 on the cleans, but I did PR those at 145lbs. Also PR'd on bench.

Yeah, this stuff is hard.

[ColoWayno]

This is going OK except that my workouts are at the two hour mark and I'm exhausted by the time I get to power cleans. My squats are feeling better than ever. Presses are beginning to stall. Deadlifts are well into new PR territory for me.

As I'm an old feller' should I:
A) take some chocolate milk or something with me for the long workout?
B) reset all of the weights (I'm just now getting into PR country so I'll hate you if you choose B )
C) switch up my programming (I just introduced a light squat day which is working pretty well)
D) just go faster, don't worry about passing out, it's ok.
E) insert your own idea.