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    Just a few questions on technique, and question about deadlift progression. First, Press - I see no possible way to have the palm of my heel under the bar, with a narrow grip, and also have the bar across my anterior shoulders. I can easily get it across my collar bones/upper chest and have my elbows in front of the bar, but no way can I bring my shoulders forward far enough to support the bar while also keeping my forearm bones under the bar. Is this ok, or is it a flexibility issue - can people actually do that? I'm pretty sure that's what it said to do in starting strength..and ive read both 2nd and 3rd editions.

    Squat - should I feel a tug at my hamstrings - it's a different feeling than the stretch at the start of a deadlift position? It's uncomfortable, and makes the weight seem harder than if I just do the squats the way I've been doing, which has always been with the low bar position, weight definitely not on toes or ball of feet...basically I'm having trouble figuring out how much I should be sitting back. Should I just think about "bar over midfoot", with the bar in the low bar position, and forget the rest?

    Also, for the deadlift, the book says 15lb jumps at the start for most men, and then goes right to 5lb jumps - this would result in a higher squat than deadlift within the first 2 months of the program. Am I supposed to increase the weight by 10lbs per workout, after the first couple weeks of +15lb increases? That would raise the squat and deadlift at the same rate per month. It's not very clear in the book, quite frankly. I didn't even see a definitive rep scheme for power cleans, just more sets across and less reps, 5x3 is a logical conclusion, but it's never stated explicitly, which confuses stupid people like me who need everything spelled out for them. x[

    I'm sorry but I don't have a video camera...I can try to use my phone to take a short video - only allows 15 second videos, though I'm not sure how I'd get that online...I don't have a data plan...not sure if I'd need one for that...would really love to be able to film my deadlift in particular, as I'm not sure if my back rounded during my last set, which makes me unsure of what I should do next workout. Going to ask somebody to watch me next time and tell me if my back rounds for sure, just not sure what weight to pick...

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    For a lot of people, it won't be possible to have the bar rest on your shoulders at the bottom of the press. So feel free to forget that part if you're one of those people.

    Don't sit back when you squat. Try not to think about your hamstrings.

    For most people, the deadlift will be stronger than the squat. It allows for bigger jumps in the beginning, and in practice the squat will probably require a reset sooner than the deadlift, letting the deadlift stay ahead. You don't time your progression by the week, you'll need to learn to pay attention to what your body is telling you to figure out what size jumps to make.

    With the power clean, 5x3 works for a lot of people and removes a lot of extra thinking.

    Maybe you can find a friend that owns a camera or has a data plan on their phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeC1 View Post
    For a lot of people, it won't be possible to have the bar rest on your shoulders at the bottom of the press. So feel free to forget that part if you're one of those people.

    Don't sit back when you squat. Try not to think about your hamstrings.

    For most people, the deadlift will be stronger than the squat. It allows for bigger jumps in the beginning, and in practice the squat will probably require a reset sooner than the deadlift, letting the deadlift stay ahead. You don't time your progression by the week, you'll need to learn to pay attention to what your body is telling you to figure out what size jumps to make.

    With the power clean, 5x3 works for a lot of people and removes a lot of extra thinking.

    Maybe you can find a friend that owns a camera or has a data plan on their phone.
    Alright, thanks, simple, I like it. I'll see what I can do for form videos, I can at least ask someone to watch me, just gotta be careful who - I'm using chalk in a gym that doesn't allow it, and don't want to draw too much attention to myself, luckily the free weights are in the back of the gym, and I can sneakily chalk my hands within my gym bag, set behind some stepping platforms or w/e they are. How much should a good-enough video camera cost? I wanna buy a belt, practical programing, and some nylon webbing for straps, have already invested in proper weightlifting shoes, and have various other expenses and crap I gotta buy, working close to full-time now, plus college.

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