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    Heres a bodybuilders WOD

    chin ups - 8, 6, 6, 6
    seated weighted situps @ 130 lbs, 140, 150, 160
    oblique twists @ 100 lbs, 110, 120, 130
    weighted incline situps w/ 20 lb barbell behind neck - 8 reps, 6, 4
    exercise ball situps 20, 18, 16,14
    horizontal weighted situps 30 reps, 20, 20 20

    following is generally 12 reps, 10, 8, 6 with weight listed for each set
    dumbell curls 40, 50, 60, 65
    twenty ones 50, 55, 60, 60
    reverse curls 60 65 70 75
    incline curls w/ dumbells 35 35 35 35
    preacher curl w/ ez bar 75, 80, 85, 90
    machine preacher curls 155 170 185 dropset to 140 140

    skull crushers 70 75 80 85
    close grip press 70 75 80 85
    dips 7 reps, 12, 9, 7
    overhead rope extension 150 lbs x 4 sets
    one arm reverse cable pushdown 60 lbs x 4 sets
    pushups 16 reps 12 10 10

    wrist roller @ 10 lbs - 3 reps, 2, 2 2
    wrist curl 55 lbs 60 65 70
    reverse wrist curl 30 lbs 35 35 35
    behind the back wrist curl 55 lbs x 4 sets


    "4 hours later and I'm doing Chest/Shoulders so I'll be doing:"

    bench press x 4 sets (probly start at 225 and work my way to max ~365)
    dumbell fly x 4 sets
    incline bench press x4 sets
    bent forward cable fly x 4 sets
    peck deck fly x 4 sets
    decline bench press x 4 sets

    seated rear lateral raises x 4 sets
    lateral raises x 4 sets
    front raises x 4 sets
    hammer smith shoulder press x 4 sets
    clean and press x 4 sets

    trap bar shrugs x 4 sets
    heavy upright row x 4 sets
    dumbell shrugs x 4 sets

    And then from someone log here on this forum

    Squat - 135x5, 225x5, 315x2, 365x1, 385x5
    RDL's - 225 for 2 sets of 5
    Stiff-legs - 315 for 2 sets of 5
    Glute/Ham/Gastroc raises - 25 pounds dropped to bodyweight for 2 sets
    Neck extensions - 40x10 reps, 40x9 reps, 25 for 2 sets of 10
    Ab wheel - full ROM 2 sets of 10

    Theres a huuuge difference in volume. How are these routines both giving (im assuming, or they probably wouldnt do them) good results to their respective users?

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axegrinder View Post
    Theres a huuuge difference in volume. How are these routines both giving (im assuming, or they probably wouldnt do them) good results to their respective users?
    Why are you assuming that? You think people do stupid workouts that can't produce results because they produce results? Isn't it more likely that people do stupid workouts because they are stupid themselves?

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    Well ive seen pics of the guy, hes 6'4, 265 with a 600+ deadlift, 300+ bench, 400+ squat.

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    This is what we philosophers call an ad hominem argument. The guy is big and strong, so the workout he's doing must be good. There may be OTHER FACTORS involved. And the fact that different people can use different workouts to obtain good results is not philosophically troubling to us.

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