First deadlifts in the new Do-Wins

[Tom Lang]

They really felt pretty good, and I didn't notice much difference in the way they felt, other than that my feet felt more solid. Aside from the obvious upper back issue in the video, am I seeing my hips rise a bit much?

http://youtu.be/37x6i1TCq8A

Thanks for looking.

[Steve Hill]

You are going to have a hard time around here trying to get a form check on a deadlift with plates that are not round. Find some round plates. The plates you are using are fucking up too much stuff, and allowing you to do things you shouldn't be doing.

[Tom Lang]

You are going to have a hard time around here trying to get a form check on a deadlift with plates that are not round. Find some round plates. The plates you are using are fucking up too much stuff, and allowing you to do things you shouldn't be doing.

Could you elaborate? Yes, those plates suck, but I'd have to change gyms to find round ones.

[Brodie Butland]

Speaking only for myself and not for Steve, but I've noticed that when you put the plates down, they end up "rolling" out so that your starting position is screwed up. Watch your bar path on each rep--almost without fail, the bar moves inward and then goes out, sort of like an "S".

[Tom Lang]

Speaking only for myself and not for Steve, but I've noticed that when you put the plates down, they end up "rolling" out so that your starting position is screwed up. Watch your bar path on each rep--almost without fail, the bar moves inward and then goes out, sort of like an "S".

Man, that bar path is all over the place. I looked back at some of my other DL vids, too. It seems that when I put the bar back down, the stupid non-round plates hit the front bracing plates, then roll back into place. I would think that, if I were doing the DL correctly, the bar would land back at exactly the same place it started. I see how the bar then comes in again as I do the next rep. I've noticed that the bar will "travel" forward throughout the set. It appears that I need to work on the eccentric phase, too? For comparison, here's my "best" set from July, before I had to take a hiatus from lifting:

http://youtu.be/BNlZYBMW4ww

Still in Chuck's. You can see the bar placement over my feet, too. And the rock-n-rollin' stupid plates.

[Steve Hill]

Could you elaborate? Yes, those plates suck, but I'd have to change gyms to find round ones.

Or you buy a pair of round ones, used, on craigslist and donate them to your improperly equipped gym.

Do you suffer from kyphosis? Or are you just leaving your upper back rounded all the time?

[Steve Hill]

Speaking only for myself and not for Steve, but I've noticed that when you put the plates down, they end up "rolling" out so that your starting position is screwed up. Watch your bar path on each rep--almost without fail, the bar moves inward and then goes out, sort of like an "S".

The plates / bar path are moving / rolling for two reasons:

1) The bar is being returned to the floor incorrectly. Too much early knee bend is making the bar hit the ground forward of the midfoot which
2) results in the plates landing on one of the 45s he has conveniently placed on the floor to force his bar back into the correct position on the floor.

[Nic Lane]

The plates... allowing you to do things you shouldn't be doing.

I know all too well how the 12-sided plates suck, but I'd never thought about them allowing you to do things you shouldn't be doing form-wise. Can you tell me more?

[Steve Hill]

I know all too well how the 12-sided plates suck, but I'd never thought about them allowing you to do things you shouldn't be doing form-wise. Can you tell me more?

For one, they are helping him put down the bar incorrectly through the clever mechanism of plates on the floor.

[Tom Lang]

Kyphotic. I started a "fixing the upper back deadlift" thread a week or two ago. And yes, early knee bend. The plates on the ground, which do help keep the stupid 12-gon plates from jumping around, have also cleverly allowed me to form bad habits, as you point out.