Squating lighter on deadlift day

[sledgehammah]

Age: 20
Weight: 226 (started at 192)
Squat: 3x5x265
Deadlift 1x5x325
Bench 3x5x180
Press: 3x5x140

I'm really starting to have trouble squatting and deadlifting on the same day, I want to keep going on SS for another couple of months at least, but I was wondering if I could tweak the program to something like this

Saturday:
Squat 3x5 (5 pounds more than last Wednesday)
Press/BP 3x5
4xF Chinups


Monday:
Squat 3x3 (Same Weight as Saturday)
Press/BP 3x5
Deadlift 1x5

Wednesday:
Squat 3x5 (5 pounds more than Saturday)
Press/BP 3x5
Chinups 4xF

That way my Deadlift and Squat increase on separate days, and I could get more volume on chinups.

[JT in MD]

Why are you having trouble doing both on the same day? Recovery? Time? My personal opinion is that you're not going heavy enough yet to warrant messing with the program... but that's sight unseen.

Do what you want to do, but don't complain if it doesn't work.

[poppunk]

Doing your middle day the same day as your first day in the week cycle seems like a bizarre compromise of doing another heavy progress day or doing a 80% day prescribed in the advanced novice program. I would advise you do one of the two things:

1) If you're not stalling (and you're doing your sleep/eat thing right) and it just sucks, you need to be mentally tough and get through Wednesday as prescribed. Judging by your bodyweight, this is likely the case. This is actually going to get much, much harder for you, so just push through the suck now so you're prepared to push through the bigger suck later. A lot of guys your size should have something like another 70 pounds on their squat and deadlift before recovery starts really start being a problem.

2) If you are actually stalling because you're not able to recover, then go on advanced novice and do your squats on your middle day (Monday) at 80% of Saturday's weight. Don't do this until you are actually stalling and doing everything right.

Also, you didn't mention power cleans. I got cute and skipped them for a long time and it was a huge mistake. Besides the obvious power training, they will substantially improve your deadlifts from the fast pulls and your deadlifts will continue to push your squats as well.

[sledgehammah]

Also, you didn't mention power cleans. I got cute and skipped them for a long time and it was a huge mistake. Besides the obvious power training, they will substantially improve your deadlifts from the fast pulls and your deadlifts will continue to push your squats as well.

I did do them my first time through SS, but I somehow fractured my coracoid process with a power clean, I think that happened because of bad form so I'm holding off on doing them until I get someone to teach me in person.

Why are you having trouble doing both on the same day? Recovery? Time?

Well, those workouts are starting to take too long, I go to the gym in the mornings and have to get to class afterwards. I'd workout afterwards, but I have class until 7pm , so gotta do hmwk during that time. I'm not stalling at all, it's just that doing the 4 sets of chinups on the the B days takes me less time than doing the 1 set of deadlifts. I just want to get in and out faster...

Anyway, I think I'll just keep going with the program for a while more.