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    Default Preparation/Contest/Vacation/Readaptation (I think in that order)

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    I'm trying to get to the bottom of why I'm so tired (No Pus#@ jokes, please).

    I hit 315 x 5 x 5 in the squat, then 335 x 5 x 3, and from there I started losing it. I gave myself a week off, then went in on Monday and could manage 315 x 1 in the squat. During the break I took it easy diet wise, just ate what I felt like. But I did load up the day following my Monday workout: 12 eggs, plate lunch (chix/eggplant), protein shakes (72g. protein), oils, hamburger & milkshake, vites, creatine, igf1 (pulling out the stops, even on the most far out supps). And have been eating like that pretty much since. Would this decrease in strength be representative of being in a "re-adaptation phase"; as a function of my individual training tolerance?

    Sleep has been shit, but I don't work so I can sleep as much as I want.

    Hmm...

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    So you took a 20# jump in your squat? Over how many training sessions?

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    Wait, IGF-1 as in an injectable peptide?

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    The answer is, "What?"

    20# jump, week off, unexplained strength decrease, no information about past training history. Try going back in. Sometimes your body plays tricks on you the first day back after a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misspelledgeoff View Post
    So you took a 20# jump in your squat? Over how many training sessions?
    Tuesday: 315 x 5 x 5
    Thursday: 255 x 5 x 5 (light day)
    Sunday: 335 x 5 x 3

    So in the course of about a week...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Daniel View Post
    Wait, IGF-1 as in an injectable peptide?
    Hey Carlos,

    No, not injectable. It was on the store shelf of my natural foods store. It's by NOW Foods and it's a liposomal spray. Any thoughts?
    http://www.nowfoods.com/Products/Pro...ly/M004237.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by gzt View Post
    The answer is, "What?"

    20# jump, week off, unexplained strength decrease, no information about past training history. Try going back in. Sometimes your body plays tricks on you the first day back after a break.
    Well, I stalled at a 1RM of about 340# for a few months, a 3RM of about 315#, & a 5RM of about 295. So I started eating out all the time and taking really good care with supps. I've been training for about a year and a half. It took 2 months to reach my minor goal of 315 x 5 x 5 after heavy eating being implemented. Then the drop-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Liao View Post
    Tuesday: 315 x 5 x 5
    Thursday: 255 x 5 x 5 (light day)
    Sunday: 335 x 5 x 3

    So in the course of about a week...
    Uh...what program are you doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Liao View Post
    Tuesday: 315 x 5 x 5
    Thursday: 255 x 5 x 5 (light day)
    Sunday: 335 x 5 x 3

    So in the course of about a week...
    Quote Originally Posted by mstrofbass View Post
    Uh...what program are you doing?
    i.e. if you're doing Texas Method, you're doing it wrong. TM calls for 5x5 or some type of volume, recovery with 2 sets of 5, and intensity with one set of 5, a triple, or perhaps 5 singles.

    this would look like:
    mon 315 x 5 x 5
    wed 225 x 5 x 2
    fri 335 x 5, or 350 x 3, or 365 x 1 x 5 etc

    you are doing way, way, way too much volume to expect to recover from. The reason you are so tired is quite simple, you're massively overtrained
    Last edited by stronger; 09-27-2010 at 04:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Liao View Post
    Hey Carlos,

    No, not injectable. It was on the store shelf of my natural foods store. It's by NOW Foods and it's a liposomal spray. Any thoughts?
    http://www.nowfoods.com/Products/Pro...ly/M004237.htm
    Seems like BS to me, if someone had found a way to easily administer peptides by an oral route we would see it all over the place. We have some meds that are designed this way (not peptides, not that I know of), but they are quite expensive, so I doubt a "garden variety" supplement can pull it off.
    Last edited by Carlos Daniel; 09-27-2010 at 06:30 PM.

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