I have no problem approving this post. The lifting is interesting, and the gym in the squat video looks like an actual training hall. But you're asking us to assume that these guys are 1.) natural, and 2.) that they actually compete in their underwear. 1.) I can give you since I never assume anyone is geared unless it is obvious in some way to a person with years of experience around such people. So the guys are strong. They are. But 2.) is a stretch; you just know they are bodybuilders who compete in their underwear, and we're supposed to take your word for the fact?? I would NEVER assume this about a guy without proof. I thought that one of the links was at least a physique picture of one of the lifters.
And when did I say that bodybuilders -- clean or otherwise -- were not ever strong? I have merely said that training and dieting this hard for the sake of appearance only was twisted and sick, and probably indicative of deep-seated insecurities. Why, I'll bet if you ask these guys about training they'd first tell you about their work, not their bodyfat. And they might also be pissed that you posted their videos in this thread. In fact, I'd say that if anyone should be concerned about my approving this post, it's probably you, not me.