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    Default Mixed Programming etc

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    I'll make this as brief as possible

    I work as a circus acrobat, both performing and coaching various circus arts.
    The girl I usually use as a barbell substitute is out injured (tore everything but her ACL in her knee playing sport) So I'm taking this chance to do SS to eventually head back to partner lifting with much greater strength... further to this I would like to get my squats to roughly 2x bodyweight as I've heard this will greatly improve my verticle jump height (currently at 45inch box jumps)

    I've asked on other much less reputable forums whether anyone could tell me roughly how long some of my goals COULD take; and the answers were understandably mixed (coming from 'athletes' not coaches)

    Current stats after first week and a half in the gym fixing form
    >165lbs, 6'1 21 years old
    Squat 165lbs
    Press 150lbs
    Bench ~150lbs
    Deadlift ~ 165lbs

    Short term Goals
    >2 x bodyweight squat
    >~220lbs deadlift+ (to keep my back safe from the rigours of moving a giant tent every few months)
    >1 x bodyweight strict press

    Also I'll be training alot of isometric (core/arm) strength exercises as part of my circus training; would I be ok to train this stuff on the "rest" days of the program; providing I eat like a dancing bear every day?
    I'll be logging my progress not just in the program itself but in how it assists the bodyweight exercises I'm already doing/attempting as weightlifting among acrobats and gymnasts is rare... and where it does exist it is usually very unbalanced or done ineffectively

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    You want a 330+ squat and a 220 deadlift?

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    I get the impression that he doesn't so much care what his deadlift is and might not realize that through this process his deadlift is going to go up much more than that.

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    how the hell does he have the same numbers for press and bench? i want a picture of this chest-shoulders you speak of

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    from what I gather his job involves pressing a girl overhead. You may want to go light on the presses depending on exactly what your circus training involves. We can't tell anything from the stats you posted because most of these lifts are not really challenging you at all I suspect. A better gauge would be how long it takes your squat to go from say 225-265 or so but even then nobody can really predict this very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    You want a 330+ squat and a 220 deadlift?

    Yeah I can see now that the deadlift could well be there in a month.
    The squat and OHP/Bench are really the lifts I'm interested in.
    also the way to program with my circus training

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    The short answer is that most people get these numbers in 2-3 months at your height if they gain bodyweight and DO THE PROGRAM. Which includes deadlifts and a balanced approach to strength, not cherry-picking the exercises to satisfy your inexperienced perception of how strength applies to your activities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    The short answer is that most people get these numbers in 2-3 months at your height if they gain bodyweight and DO THE PROGRAM. Which includes deadlifts and a balanced approach to strength, not cherry-picking the exercises to satisfy your inexperienced perception of how strength applies to your activities.
    Sorry if it wasn't clear, although I'm more interested in the Squat, Bench and Press progression I can get from the program... I will be following it exactly.
    That includes eating properly and doing ALL the exercises.
    If I was "cherry picking" then I wouldn't be doing the program but rather writing my own; at which point the SS forum wouldn't be a the ideal place to post.

    I get the impression you face this a lot; maybe if more young folk trained under hardcore russian and chinese coaches like I have then you wouldn't have to deal with it so much!

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