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    Default Which is beter for strength gains (Deadlift)

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    I'm toying with my deadlift programming a bit. Last week, I pulled

    Doubles to 1 rep of 405 pounds (which is 90-95% of my 1rm)

    Back off - 325 X11 (great conditioning tool)

    Ignoring injury risk and conditioning benefits, if I had done my back off in 2 sets of 4-6, rather than 1 all out set of 11 what likely would be the strength training effect (extrapolated to a few months of training)

    Equal results
    1 set = stronger
    2 sets = stronger

    reading PP3 several times, I would guess equal, as it seems volume (at or above a minimum intensity threshold drives strength the most).
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    I've been doing Andy Baker's three-week deadlift cycle (the one he gives away when you visit his website), and am having a great time of it. The framework is infinitely tweakable.

    Oh, I just now see your actual question: I think you'll have better luck with 2 sets, but more reps. eg: if you were going to pull one set of 10, make it two sets of 6. if one set of 8, then two sets of 5. I can't ignore injury risk in my calculation - but, you get that many more reps added to total volume, which equals more training effect. That's my humble opinion.
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    How long do you think you'll bee able to add weight (increasing total tonnage) to your 11 rep-max? How long will you be able to add weight to a submaximal 4-6 rep set? What will elicit a response from the General Adaptation Syndrome?

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    I think you would be better off doing something like
    405x2
    395x2
    385x2
    If you want to increase the deadlift. I would start with 5s and 4's then after those run out of steam go to 3s then doubles. Dropping 20% is too much and won't be the same kind of training effect as the first set was so the additional volume is too light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryanccfshr View Post
    I think you would be better off doing something like
    405x2
    395x2
    385x2
    If you want to increase the deadlift. I would start with 5s and 4's then after those run out of steam go to 3s then doubles. Dropping 20% is too much and won't be the same kind of training effect as the first set was so the additional volume is too light.
    Sounds brutal!

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    Brutality works

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    Heavy doubles or triples are where it's at for the DeadLift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erok View Post
    I've been doing Andy Baker's three-week deadlift cycle (the one he gives away when you visit his website), and am having a great time of it. The framework is infinitely tweakable.

    Oh, I just now see your actual question: I think you'll have better luck with 2 sets, but more reps. eg: if you were going to pull one set of 10, make it two sets of 6. if one set of 8, then two sets of 5. I can't ignore injury risk in my calculation - but, you get that many more reps added to total volume, which equals more training effect. That's my humble opinion.
    I can't find that. Do I have to sign up for the newsletter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBeech View Post
    I can't find that. Do I have to sign up for the newsletter?
    It's that "Is your Deadlift Stuck? (Or does it just suck?)" thing on the home page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meshuggah View Post
    Heavy doubles or triples are where it's at for the DeadLift.
    Singles to heavy 5's. Yep. 11's are cardio.

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