Are you referring to just standing the bar up off the hooks with a heavier weight than you can squat, and holding it there, then putting it back down?
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Squat Stand- Ups
Hello Coaches,
What do you all think of Squat Stand-Ups to give your body an idea of what a certain weight feels like on your back? I experimented with it for the first time today and personally felt that it was beneficial in teaching me what type of stability is really needed to handle weights in the 300s. Thanks!
Novice: 16yrs, 175lbs
DL: ~400lbs
Squat:~200lbs
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Are you referring to just standing the bar up off the hooks with a heavier weight than you can squat, and holding it there, then putting it back down?
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These numbers strongly suggest that your squat needs to be looked at, rather than trying to solve the problem by unracking heavier weights (if that's indeed what you're talking about). Have you had coaching, or posted form checks for the Staff Coaches to comment on? Or at least one out in the open forums? How tall are you?Originally Posted by B-MoreBeast
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Oh fuck. I didn't even look at his numbers. Let's see your Sq and DL both. In addition to almost certain squat form issues, I'm interested in seeing a 175 lb 16 year old pull 400.
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Yes, you are both correct that I would unrack the weight and hold it on my back for 10-15 seconds working on intro-abdominal pressure and keeping my back rigid. In regards to the differential between squat and deadlift I think part of the problem is my mental focus in regards to the lifts. With deadlifts I'm hyper focused and commit all of my energy and power to the lift. I've only failed a deadlift once before, my first attempt at 300lbs and I stupidly didn't warm myself up at all really. With squats I've been told my stance is slightly uneven (from an old video I posted) but I also recognize that my focus can and will drift during squat sets. Also I fail to maintain intro-abdominal pressure throughout the lift. As of late I had been doing more of a hybrid squat style as it seemed to better fit my anthropometry. I'm 5'11 with decently long legs so that may contribute to weaker squat. Starting Monday November 2nd I can get video of squats and deadlifts for review. If we could keep the thread open until then it would be awesome. Right now the strength training is as a supplement to baseball but I really enjoy lifting so I have to be careful with programming. I'd like to discuss this some more. Also November 2nd is when my linear progression starts and in regards to that is it reasonable to expect to add 150lbs to my squat in 11 weeks? It just seems that with the strength of my deadlift and being relatively untrained there are a lot of strength gains to be had. Thank you for the help so far.
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Other than, like Wolfenstein, waiting with bated breath for your deadlift, I would add that I too like to feel my PR weight before I squat it. For like 3-4 seconds while I get ready and then squat a weight that's only 5# heavier than what I squatted last time, for 5 reps. Do your fives!
But YMMV.
Last edited by Steve Hill; 10-23-2015 at 02:37 PM.
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Just realized that I looked like an idiot because "intra-abdominal" pressure auto corrected to intro. In regards to the 400lb deadlift I will try to make it happen. Best so far is 370 for 5. We'll see...
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Coaches, Would GOMAD apply to me? I know that Mark says it is for underweight adolescent males. I fluctuate between low 180s to 175 as a near minimum. Would this classify me as a candidate for GOMAD or some variation of it? Thanks.
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I would suggest that the thing you need to do first IS FIX YOUR SQUAT.
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For sure. Once I return to it on the Monday after tomorrow I will upload video of my squats here and in my log.
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