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    Question Set volume for lower-body strength

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    I just read http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22158142, which essentially concluded 8 sets would be better for 1RM squat strength than 1 or 4 in trainees that could already squat 130%+ bodyweight.

    I can't find it anywhere in the study, but I assume they only squatted once a week.
    Am I right to assume doing 8 sets instead of 3 wouldn't work for a program like SS as we're squatting 3 times a week versus the assumed 1 in the study?

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    Did you actually read the study, or just the abstract? Because the abstract tells us nothing useful about what they did.

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    I read the entire study.
    The trainees followed a 2 split and they only trained legs with squats, so squatting twice a week. The 1RM was recalculated after each week to ensure the training is progressive and they did each set to positive failure with 3 minutes pause inbetween each set. Edit: All squat repetitions were performed to a depth of 90° knee flexion, and repetition cadence was set at 2-second descent and 1-second ascent.

    Here's an illustration of the average reps each group managed per set and the results:



    Essentially the conclusion seems to be that with 8 sets the strength increase percentage is bigger after 3 weeks compared to the other two groups.

    I don't often read studies like these, so I'm not sure if I've misunderstood parts of it or its conclusion, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunafisher View Post
    All squat repetitions were performed to a depth of 90° knee flexion.
    Oh, they did half squats.

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    after 3 weeks
    That's it? Three weeks?

    Not a whole lot of time to reach a conclusion of statistical significance.

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    Oh damn, my bad, it's 6 weeks, with an additional 4 weeks (T3) afterwards to accommodate for overreaching.
    And the half squats explain how they managed to go up ~20kg in just a few weeks.

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    They should also include a group doing just one max set (doubles/ 1 reps) of squats everyday. I believe doing it this way is most beneficial to increase 1RM.

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    and repetition cadence was set at 2-second descent and 1-second ascent.
    This is odd, since 1rm squat attempts typically take longer than 1s on the way up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeC1 View Post
    This is odd, since 1rm squat attempts typically take longer than 1s on the way up.
    I believe the 2-second descent and 1-second ascent applies to their workset reps and not the 1RM attempts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunafisher View Post
    I believe the 2-second descent and 1-second ascent applies to their workset reps and not the 1RM attempts.
    even so...
    1s ascent for a "half-squat", well yeah anything is possible there.

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    Squats near 10 rm are not very similar to sets of 5 across, and would never be my choice for increasing 1 rm.

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