SGDL Question

[ud2o]

I snatch-gripped some deadlifts this AM. Rogue Ohio bar, hands just outside outer rings, maybe 1/4 or 1/2 inch

Was this wide enough to be considered a legit snatch grip?

[Austin Baraki]

Sure.

[ud2o]

Sure.

Pithy. Nice. And thanks.

Is there a standard or is it just "as far as you can reach"?

[Austin Baraki]

Pithy. Nice. And thanks.

Is there a standard or is it just "as far as you can reach"?

There's certainly no standard, and it's not necessarily "as far as you can reach" either.

If you're doing an actual snatch, your grip width will depend on your arm lengths and also require some experimentation to find a good balance between your individual ability to stabilize the bar overhead and the vertical distance you'll have to pull it. To understand this, imagine doing a snatch with a clean grip - it might be a lot easier to stabilize overhead (essentially the lockout position of a press), but you'll have to pull it really damn far to be able to get under it in one motion. Conversely, you could grip it out by the collars and not have to pull the bar as high to be able to get under it with locked out elbows - but it can be very hard to stabilize a heavy weight with that grip width due to the moment arms on the shoulders.

Now, If you're just doing snatch-grip deadlifts, most of that stuff doesn't really matter. If you want to make it harder, go wider since you'll be "shortening your arms" more. You can see where I grip mine on an Ohio Power bar here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czOGduPxdSc maybe a hand width (or a bit less) in from the collars, or a bit wider than you're describing. Not a huge deal either way, as long as you're consistent.

[Cody]

The grip in the snatch places the barbell in your hip crease when you stand erect. That is the width you would assume for the sgdl, as well.

Edit: Or whatever Austin says

[ud2o]

Right on. Fucking awesome pulls too. I watched the video, that was impressive.

EDIT: Thanks Cody, MG.

[Cody]

A decent article here to give you some insight.

Basically, it's variant based on #dembonez.

And Cody snuck in the main point of the article. Fucking keyboard fondlers.

Literally lol'd.

[Austin Baraki]

The grip in the snatch places the barbell in your hip crease when you stand erect. That is the width you would assume for the sgdl, as well.

Edit: Or whatever Austin says

Pretty much agree with you though, and that's certainly where I start most people (especially when teaching the snatch). But for people only doing SGDLs where there's no concern about a second pull or overhead catch, it becomes less important and you can easily go wider or narrower to play with the mechanics/difficulty of the lift. I've tried doing SGDLs with a grip all the way out at the collars and man... it gets damn hard to break that thing off the floor.

[Cody]

Pretty much agree with you though, and that's certainly where I start most people (especially when teaching the snatch). But for people only doing SGDLs where there's no concern about a second pull or overhead catch, it becomes less important and you can easily go wider or narrower to play with the mechanics/difficulty of the lift. I've tried doing SGDLs with a grip all the way out at the collars and man... it gets damn hard to break that thing off the floor.

When I messed with the sgdl, breaking the ground wasn't the problem; breaking my junk was. I immediately decided to never do them again.

[Adam Skillin]

When I messed with the sgdl, breaking the ground wasn't the problem; breaking my junk was. I immediately decided to never do them again.

You were instructed (albeit after the fact) to tuck your stuff back in your lululemons like Hanley does. Wait, do we really have a SGDL thread without Hanley? Has Montana lost internet access?